Republicans plan to reintroduce Anti-LGBT ‘religious freedom’ bill supported by Trump

I suspect I subconsciously prefer such businesses, also. It tells me the merchant cares about his work. That's always a good 'sign'.

 

Please read the First Amendment

Seriously ?

Yes you would. Thats because the constitution applies to EVERYONE, not just "christians"

 

Using your logic labor unions aren't legitimate at all and should be disbanded entirely because the whole Constitutional argument for the existence of labor unions is FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION.

See how that works?

Oh I forgot freedom of association only applies to Christians practicing their faith, but it's fine for labor unions right? yeah because they're fighting the man right? those rich bastards should get it - so it's cool with the progressives.

 

yes special rights are for people that need special accommodation and government help.
gay sex (genital massage) does not need government involvement so no special rights for gays should be allowed.

 

All due respect Nick, but you don't understand what a religion is and your making a fool of yourself in here.


Your the one stomping on Freedoms. Your denying others freedoms under the guis of it infringing on yours. Do you not see the irony in that position ?

 

Yes, it means theocracies are forbidden - it doesn't mean people are forbidden from practicing their religion of promoting their religion or freely talking about their religion...

It means congress shall pass no law stopping a religion from the right to practice.

You forcing a person to contribute to a gay wedding is preventing ones RIGHT to practice their religion.

I bet you would cry First Amendment all day if a Muslim was prevented from praying ---- Oh yea progressives DID MANY TIMES.

 

Geez man. Calm down. Don't give yourself a stroke.

 

Ok. And the social conservatives do the same thing do they not?

 

Now I don't know what religion is? nice argument.....

No, you don't get that it ISNT A RIGHT TO BE SERVED IN A PRIVATE BUSINESS!!!

It seems you progressives continually side-step that......

You ever been to a club before? yeah well they discriminate all the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing time....

Ever seen a sign that says "no shirt no shoes no service" agan - discrimination against hippies.

Business have freedom of association, and for religious reasons - well that's a double whammy.

 

the food at chick fi lay has msg and is unhealthy, if people are banned there for religious freedom purposes then they can try mcdonalds.

 

You have it backwards...you are the ones trying to force your will on others by removing their 1st amendment rights. In the united states you are free to believe in a religion without persecution.

 

So also no marriage to blind people, crippled people, deaf people, people missing an arm, hand, etc.

These are all special rights.

Glad you agree with this

Thanks!

 

Oh there are plenty republicans that would love to force their version of fascism and authoritarianism on the public at large. Thank god most republicans are really soft libertarians - they just don't know it...

As a libertarian I hate all force - if you're telling someone what they can and cannot do and they're not physically hurting someone - then you're a fascist.

Now quit pushing the narrative that people should be forced to do things for others the second they pull their wallet and decide for themselves that they're customers.

If people really cared that businesses didn't serve to gays that business would go out of business - so let the free market handle the fate of these businesses....

Oh, I forgot - every time a business sticks to it's faith the business only gets more support.

I guess progressive ideas aren't that popular afterall - that or you're all poor.

 

All good stuff. You're thinking in large leaps ahead of the average Progressive here. They are generally (in my experience), fiscally retarded, and are so removed from the mechanics of survival (fiscal and otherwise) that it never enters the equation. They're extremely dangerous people. It's like allowing insane kings, who've spent their lives being fed peeled grapes, to decide on the economics of survival. When real problems are lacking, and you've known nothing but comfort and safety all your life (the average Progressive), the most petty and vain things will be called problems. Resources then get channelled to these petty and vain things, while outside the palace gates, wars are still raging, and children are still dying from cancer and starvation.

Meantime, I'm a socialist, so I'm not sure how much that plays into my preference for utility. Though I'm a fiscal/practical socialist - the only kind that isn't insane, IMO. Maybe that's the key.

 

It does if that practice infringes on my freedom of religion.

No, it takes away from the persons right to be married. You refuse to see that there are 2 religions at practice right ?

I would !!!! Unlike you I really support the constitution. This is where you show your true colors. You don't support the constitution, you support your religion. You hide discrimination under a cloak of (false) patriotism.

 

It is crazy, but there are still clear lines between personal association (being invited to a wedding) and business association.

On the invitation thing though, as per the bakers, I'm not sure why people who oppose gay weddings actually say it. They could just as easily refuse service (or the invitation) by saying they're 'booked out', or busy. It's the grandstanding of declaring your reason that I find more objectionable than the refusal.

 

No you don't. A religion is "a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance"

So if a gay person wants to get married, and you deny it, how is that not infringing on THEIR right to freedom of religion ?

You seem to think that it is a Christian tenant that Gay people cannot get married....

No, I never said that. What I said was that you cannot use Your right to a freedom to deny that very thing to someone else. It is you that refuses to see that you are using the very thing you are denying to justify your right to do it

You cannot deny someone a right and then use the very same right your denying to justify your actions !!!!

 

They already do when it comes to gay people and abortions. I think this world needs more gay people and abortions. And less annoying, pushy, hypocritical Christians.

 

Only for kids who go in looking for hugs and validation. If your kid goes to college looking for 'family', you've failed as a parent.

Not incidentally, kids who take STEM courses usually avoid all that bulldust.

 

Fantastic news.

Now freedom applies to everyone. Not just LGBT's who want to use any bathroom they want.

 

That's what I would do.

I would just say "I don't have time" if I didn't want to do a gay wedding...... Let them draw the conclusion.

It's sad tho that people get attacked for being honest.

Also, why the hell would a gay want to do business with someone that doesn't want to do business with them?

Oh yea, because this isn't about cakes or weddings it's about causing trouble and forcing homosexuality down Christians throats..... That is what really pisses me off...... They are going out of their way to be victims and to shove their agenda down others throats...

What they're doing is just as bad as Nazi's trolling gay bars to troll the gays in them....

But this is just another example of why I hate progressives.

Oh and the only reason why I would refuse to do a gay wedding would be because gays are generally progressive and I hate progressives and their money wouldn't be welcome...

 

I hope that this so called freedom of religion bill does get passed by Congress and then it get's challenged in the SCOTUS and thecSCOTUS rules on whether it us Constitutional or not.

 

North Korea.

 

Absolutely.....

The problem is these kids take moronic courses like "gender studies" and get brainwashed with progressive nonsense..

Of course the kids that go to college to actually learn something useful like STEM - you know knowledge people actually need do fine.

 

Well...

If they were smart, they'd appoint that 9th justice.

Then, it will be constitutional.

If you can have special accommodations made for you at work citing 'religious freedom'... then so be it. But that will apply to everyone's freedom soon, not just your own.