The Story Of Mohammed: Islam Unveiled.

In certain parts of the world, people enjoy freedom of conscience and choice, are free to lead their lives in peace and amity, to devote their energies to teaching and preaching, researching and making new discoveries. Yet even these parts of the world have not always been so tolerant, nor free from strife, nor disposed towards the co-existence of different peoples, sects and groups, still less sufficiently broad-minded, to accommodate differences of opinion.

Mankind has seemed, many times, to be bent upon self-destruction, and passed through stages when, by its own misdeeds, it has forfeited any right to survival. Men have sometimes behaved like crazed and ferocious beasts, flinging all culture and civilization, arts, literature, decency, the canons of moral and civil law, to the winds.

 

And your point is.....

 

Probably to be aware of, refuse to be a part of, and be critical of, groups like Nazis, Communists, KKK, Islamists, Fascists. or similar groups who feel they can physically enforce their beliefs on others.

 

If an Islamic teacher becomes philosophical then that's the time when other forms of Islam starts to emerge like being Jihadist. When the defensive essence transformed into offense, asserting that the best defense is a good offense.

 

In the past five years in Arabia there has emerged young imams who are educated and they have (with the blessing of the government) questioned what is Islam versus what was tribal customs.

- - - Updated - - -

In the past five years in Arabia there has emerged young imams who are educated and they have (with the blessing of the government) questioned what is Islam versus what was tribal customs.

 

Quite interesting, perhaps they feel that freedoms should still be granted.
I have one question about the Constitution of Medina drafted by Muhammed to prevent war between the 9 constituent tribe including 1 Jewish tribe Banu Ash Shutbah. Muhammad declared that no war should be waged between the tribes without his authorization, then after Muhammed died who now have this authority?.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Medina

 

Therefore you are inferring obviously that before 2011 all other imams were uneducated.
How do the young educated imams compete for recognition with the older, uneducated
imams for belief and understanding. Throughout the world, there are numerous older
imams destroying the minds of islamic believers with their hatred..how do the younger
educated imams convince their followers to believe them, rather than the older imams.

 

Too true, Misri.

Italy and Germany were among the most advanced cultures n the world but easily deteriorated into murder and infamy. We have many who supported Communism, Mao, Fidel Castro, etc. where the system, as with Islam, supersede human rights and the benefits you describe above. There's a dark side to human nature which clearly exists and we must point out these deficiencies whenever we can.

 

Dark side to human nature, he says.
Do you know why Italy and Germany became fascist? Do you know why communism gripped the minds of the masses, filled them with hope, with the weapons to fight etc.?
We don't need these ethical platitudes today. Do you really think that history is simply the 'taming' of the 'dark side of human nature'? Do you really think that in 20,000 BC, before there was culture as we know it today, that human beings were just flinging excrement at each other, barking unintelligibly from trees etc.?
There is a reason why Islam was created and why it continues to be reproduced today. The fact that you are incapable of approaching history in any kind of scientific way, doesn't mean that things happen for some stupid 'human nature' reasons or whatever.

The early Soviets produced some very interesting Marxist interpretations of the origins of Islam. You can read about them here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Orientalist_studies_in_Islam

 

Interesting link.. I think the culture of Yemen collapsed with the Ma'rib dam.

 

Yeah I read that. And the collapse of the dam which led to the collapse of Yemeni society really put the Christian God into the bad books with people in Arabia, because Yemen had recently been annexed and it's leader Christianised by the Ethiopian christian kingdom. Without that dam collapsing, it might have been the case that Muhammed might have been a christian etc etc. interesting stuff.

 

There is nothing of substance to any of this.

And here are the consequences of those interesting interpretations.. https://www.rt.com/news/183964-beslan-school-hostage-crisis/

And here. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/106169.The_Black_Book_of_Communism

 

I can't recall the date of the collapse of the dam, but the Ethiopian Christian kingdom went to Yemen to save the Christians there from the Jewish king who was into force conversion (circa 500 AD)

Orthodox Christians teach the story of the burning of the Christians of Najran,, They were Nestorian Christians.

Here it is.. the Marib dam collapsed 570-575 AD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marib_Dam

 

Well thank god for Fred C Dobbs. Except that nobody cares what you simply 'happen' to think has or doesn't have substance. Unless you provide an argument to back it up, I can just assume that you're dodging out of engagement with me.

Really you're telling me that the research of early soviet historians into a fairly obscure branch of Marxist historical materialism HAS AS ITS CONSEQUENCE the Beslan hostage situation, a full decade after the collapse of Soviet communism? This is a level of cognitive dissonance bordering on mental illness.

And there we have it. Not only are you a worthless anti-communist, you are also a profoundly lazy one. Please copy-pasta me some more lazy anti-communist cliches. Maybe we could have a discussion about how "commnism gud in practiz but not werk cos human nature hurrrr".

 

I think your user name is wonderfully chosen...obviously they wouldnt allow you to use sh!thead...
BTW are you a communist...just wondering....

 

Evidence?

 

Thanks Billy. Yes I am a communist.

 

Not too many these days who will admit to being a Communist, Fascist, Nazi, Racist, etc. but suppose all is allowed when hiding behind a pseudonym. And, as Billy pointed out, a very appropriate one in your case.

 

Yep, thought so. No evidence.

 

In the 6th and 7th centuries, Arabia was populated by Jews, pagans, followers of Zoraster and Christians. The split in the Christian church began centuries before in Antioch, Alexandria, Rome and Constantinople. In essence, those that opposed the one nature movement became heretics and created the various religions of the Egyptian and Eastern Christian civilizations. The only reason anyone calls them a heretic now is due to centuries of pressure by Rome to exert total control over the Christian faith. The so-called heretical sects simply could not agree on the true nature of Jesus and were not interested in making Mary into the mother of God. While today these debates seem silly, this debate lasted for centuries even to this very day. Ask yourself one question: was the baby Jesus a God the day he was born. If you answer yes then please explain how a God could be so helpless and unknowing yet still be a God. If you think there is an easy answer to this question, think again. Mohammed found a Christian Church in the ME that was shunned by Rome and Constantinople, they were ripe for the picking. Intellectually, Mohammed was similar in outlook to the Jews in regards to the divinity and nature of Jesus. He also found a ME that had a power vacuum due to the fall of the Roman Empire. The rest is history.