>MOD WARNING<So...what do progressives/liberals really stand for, exactly?

Allow a Muslim to stay in one of these so-called Sanctuary Cities while the screening is taking place. Banning is not a solution in of itself. It' is only a temporary solution that will eventually wear off. You got the Muslims who are already here, what are you gonna do with them? Round em up, and toss em out of the country?

 

You let them know that their political religion is going to have to remain just a personal belief, and that they will never have any political power, unlike europe which has bent over and grabbed its collective european ankles for muslims and screamed "take me!!!!".

 

The OP pretty much sums up how libs view what Trump wants to do. Yes what does that leave for a liberal platform?

 

How about we start with equality of work? That means no entitled drones that dont want to work.

 

The American dream simply means you WORK and be a responsible member of society. It does not mean you are an entitled non working drone that believes the government owes you a living.

 

With all due respect you list the usual complaints by ultra tiny groups that think the 99.9% of society should bend to their rules. Do you really think that if one person that has a belief that everyone should go out side and face the sun and jump up and down 3 times, the other 320 million of us need to do the same?

 

So called diversity is fine -------IF----------those listed dont interfere with the rights and freedoms of the majority!!!!

 

Democrats have indeed become the party of no.

 

1) Why would sending new arrivals to Sanctuary cities help? The whole point of those cities is to give them sanctuary from Federal Agencies.
2) Trump's plan to bar new arrivals from countries that are know hot beds of terrorist organizations was proposed as only being temporary. He knows (& so do others) that our current method of screening people from those areas is sorely lacking and he wants to halt immigration from those areas until we make it much more thorough & comprehensive.
3) Not much we can do about the Muslim refugees who are already here except keep a watchful eye on them & hope. Round'em up ain't gonna happen.

 

Not much except just opposing Trump.
I actually read a story this morning highlighting the media stressing out over how Trump will handle The WH Correspondence Dinner.... in... APRIL! I mean, that's how insecure these folks are. It's really bizarre.

 

That's an easy question to answer. In their far left mode they represent societal suicide and mass mental illness.

 

They support extreme socialism and communism thru unrest and violence.

 

I fixed it for you:

Trump wants more jobs here, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants to put America first, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants to secure our borders, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants to keep terrorists from coming here, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants lower taxes, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants to reduce government over spending, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants to infuse inner cities with economic opportunities, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants better trade deals for the US, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants to end China’s currency manipulation, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants other countries to pay their fair share for protection, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants to destroy Islamic terrorism, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants America to have the best HC at the best price, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants an honest, unbiased media, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants the best & smartest people running the country & not just the most politically connected, they oppose his proposed tactics.
Trump wants to restore law & order on the streets, they oppose his proposed tactics.

 

It's like this -

Trump is saying "Where Going to Disneyland!" and, really, everyone wants to go to Disneyland.

Its just that he proposing we get there in a crappy car with a spotty track record using a map from 1982 and he keeps suggesting we make stops at "attractions" no one is interested in along the way. He doesn't stop and explain why he's going his route but just keeps pointing to the destination as if the journey is unimportant.

 

That's not the problem. The problem is that the list is not valid. Here, let me spell it out...

Trump want&#8217;s more jobs here, they oppose him. Liberals don't oppose jobs. That's nonsense.

Trump wants to put America 1st, they oppose him. Liberals are not opposed to "America first". That's nonsense.

Trump wants to secure our borders, they oppose him. Libs are not opposed to secure borders, never were. That's nonsense.

Trump wants to keep terrorists from coming here, they oppose him. Nope. More nonsense.

Trump want&#8217;s lower taxes, they oppose him. WOOPS!! There's no such thing being discussed. It's "lower taxes for whom?"

Trump want&#8217;s to reduce government over spending, they oppose him. There's no such thing being discussed. The question is "what spending? Social Security? Healthcare? Medicare? Corporate welfare? Wasteful defense spending? WHAT?"

Trump wants to infuse inner cities with economic opportunity, they oppose him. Nope. More nonsense. It's in the details.

Trump want&#8217;s better trade deals for the US, they oppose him. Nope. More nonsense. He said he would end trade deals. Everybody likes that --but the corporations.

Trump want&#8217;s to end China&#8217;s currency manipulation, they oppose him. Nope. More nonsense.

Trump want&#8217;s other countries to pay their fair share for protection, they oppose him. I need more details.

Trump want&#8217;s to destroy Islamic terrorism, they oppose him. Nope!! Pure BS! Only a terrorist opposes an end to terrorism!!

Trump want&#8217;s America to have the best HC at the best price, they oppose him. Nope. He wants to go back to the disaster we had before Obamacare it seems. He has not been very specific but that's what is being discussed.

Trump want&#8217;s an honest, un-bias media, they oppose him. What's "an un-bias media"? Or do you mean BIASED?
A little anecdote: When I was a kid a friend had heard his dad refer to "vice-grips". The kid was too stupid to think about it and ask daddy questions. Instead he "assumed" and went on for a few months referring to "fire-scrips". Ya gotta THINK about it if it sounds a bit "off". Oh, and media: Your "unbiased media" is my lying Fox news spin. So this is an item that requires point-by-point, item-by-item discussion at the time it comes up.

Trump want&#8217;s the best & smartest people running the country & not just the most politically connected, they oppose him. "Smartest"?? Really??
A Secretary of State who opposes civil rights.
An EPA Administrator that denies climate change.
A Secretary of the Treasury who got rich off home foreclosures.
"Smartest"? Your judgement of "smart" is strange.

Trump want&#8217;s to restore law & order on the streets, they oppose him. You may be onto something here. To libs, "law and order" done right would mean de-militarizing the police, better police training in defusing troubled citizens, and an end to police shooting unarmed, non-threatening people. But we expect his "law and order" will be consistent with his personality as so often displayed, and will take the form of a total crackdown on peaceful protest (he has a very thin skin) and an increase in police violence. Can you guarantee that will not happen? Do you want that to happen?

 

So my above post shows that the OP is mostly spin. Nothing new there. It's common knowledge that when the right accuses the liberal left of anything, 90% of the time it's spin (IOW lies; that's what spin is).

It's time the liberal left start spinning the right's positions, but really that isn't necessary because the right's positions are so bad to begin with. Let's take a look at that....

The right wants to put America 1st, and this means insulting and offending any other nation they may wish to.
The right wants to "secure our borders" as they put it, and that means deporting every person who isn't here legally without consideration of any details.
The right wants a new crusade against all Muslims in the name of "anti-terrorism".
The right want&#8217;s lower taxes for the top 1% and higher taxation for everyone else.
The right want&#8217;s to reduce or eliminate all safety nets including S.S., Medicare, food stamps, and welfare in order to free up moree money to funnel upward to the top 1%.
The right want&#8217;s better trade deals for corporations meaning more unemployment for U.S. workers.
The right want&#8217;s endless confrontation with China. But they want to do what Putin asks them to do.
The right want&#8217;s to destroy Islamic countries as part of their crusade.
The right want&#8217;s America to return to the old, troubled healthcare system complete with pre-existing conditions, cancellation of benefits for omission of a middle name on correspondence or failure to dot an "i" on applications, and more greatly increasing premiums to ensure industry profits and support greed.
The right want&#8217;s media to just parrot Trump and to put all neutral media out of business through lawsuits.
The right want&#8217;s the best parrots from industry running the country & not the most informed and experienced.
The right want&#8217;s martial law to crush all liberals, the left, democrats, and all anti-government and pro-environment protests.
The right wants to turn the job of governing over to corporations for profit.

And there is far less spin in that than is in the OP.

 

OK, I'll play. What tactics, specifically, do you oppose? And, once you answer that question try answering the first one; what do liberals stand for, specifically?

 

OH come on....that's the most paranoid, ignorant rant I've ever heard....and considering other lefties on this forum that puts you in a class of your own.

 

You seem obsessed with disproving the OP, but so far you haven't made one post to answer the question "what do liberals stand for, specifically?". Care to answer that question?

 

Liberals stand for the European version of equality ... that's the equality of results. They want government to redistribute income, because its "unfair" for some people to have more and some people have less.

When my kids were in elementary school, on the first day of school the teacher would have the kids place the school supplies their parents bought in a big pile in the middle of the classroom. Some parents bought supplies for their kids and some did not. But the teachers always distributed the supplies equally among all the kids, because that was "fair". Of course this meant my kids ended up with less than half the supplies I bought for them. This scenario usually warms the hearts of liberals and it makes conservatives want to vomit.

 

In your tag line it should read democrats are for HUGE government.

 

Conservatives stand for HUGE amounts of disaster. History can attest to this.

 

I'm not a liberal. I'm a "lefty".

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I couldn't help but notice you didn't refute even one point.

 

LOL...why would I do that? I mean, you jumped off the cliff, don't expect me to throw you a parachute.

 

Heh heh heh. I'm happy somebody noticed. That was my way of saying that the OP is just as much spin as mine was, and more. At least mine can be defended and debated and documented, even if it may be considered as somewhat spun. The OP? Total spin.

Actually I had hoped it would be apparent and I would have to spell it out for anyone.