Trump To Chicago - Fix Crime Or I Will Send In Feds

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  1. kreo

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    Most of the killings is a turf war for control of drug selling points, anything related to the drugs is a federal crime.
     
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    Except you did it dishonestly. You only listed casualties that were Americans (never more than 200K at a time) compared to a city with a metropolitan area of 6 million. And then you cites SOME years where more people died in Chicago (although most years, they didn't.)

    Here's the thing. Chicago isn't even the most violent city in the US. Detroit, New Orleans, Cleveland and St. Louis are much worse in terms of percentages.
     
  3. PrincipleInvestment

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    If you've ever seen an episode of "Cops" where violent apprehensions, and excessive force is glorified, and consider "Cops" is one of the longest running, prime time shows, you understand what inspires some people to become policemen. Psychological evaluations are needed prior to hiring.
     
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    As I said it may take the US government to end the gang war, the mayor of Chicago won't even try
     
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    If the mayor of Chicago won't do something the feds may be forced to. It's a far from perfect solution but rhambo has really dropped the ball here and that Twit should stick to partying with the Clinton's
     
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    The US has executed well-off people before, there were the traitors the Rosenbergs, also rich crime lords Buchalter, and Gaza.

    OJ Simpson could have been set for the death penalty, put the liberal courts were too biased and idiotic to do so.
     
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    So you're another RWer who likely complains about big gov't. But want gov't to go to war on neighborhoods in cities it thinks isn't working correctly. Talk about hypocrisy. Why not go further and make the gov't/military just rule the entire nation. Another who would be better off in N Korea.
     
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    True Patriots will resist martial law, by any means neccessary.
     
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    Sure Donnie, send in the tanks just like in Hungary in 1956.
     
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    Anyone that thinks cleaning up Chicago is a simple task is beyond stupid. It will take a long term, multi pronged strategy that hits every high and low point addressed here. To make things more complicated, all of these will have to be accomplished concurrently.

    1. Clean up crime. Broken Windows is an excellent place to start.

    2. Put police in the neighborhoods in non law enforcement situations also. Attempt to build relationships and trust in the worst neighborhoods to try to break the "snitches get stitches" culture.

    3. Jobs. Its more than money, people need something constructive to do.

    4. Reduce corruption. The entire state of Illinois is a bastion of corruption that is very rarely investigated and prosecuted. This includes the politicians, police, and govt contractors.

    5. Break the gangs. Hit the leaders with with federal charges and stop the revolving door.

    Even with all of these conditions met it will be a long uphill battle that every win will be met with setbacks. Every initiative will be fought by those that profit from the status quo.
     
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    send in the guard... clean it up.... any rename it TRUMPTOWN
     
  12. Wehrwolfen

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    Is it any wonder that Obama seldom stepped foot in Chicago since 2008, and has not intention of living there again?
     
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    Yes Obama seems to sow the seeds of love and peace everywhere he calls home. After spewing devisive rhetoric in Chicago to become an Illinois statesman, he dashed off to DC, and never looked back. Now 8 yrs later, he's had the same kind of success in DC. Hence, his new DC mansion boasting impregnable stone walls. Michelle, Sasha, and Malia conspicuously absent from the womens march. :heartbreaker:
     
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    The Rosenbergs were hardly "Rich". They were also members of a minority group. Bucholter was a crime lord who was born poor and was pretty much broke by the time they fried him. And that you have to go back 60-70 years to find a case where someone with some "affluence" was executed kind of proves my point.

    As for OJ, the thing was, the DA made the decision before it ever got to trial to not seek the death penalty. Of course, Simpson wasn't even convicted, because he had GOOD LAWYERS.
     
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    It would be helpful if you could drop the hateful hyperbole and discuss the issue of the city of Chicago and it's out of control gang warfare.
     
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    The hyperbole starts with trump wanting to send military into a city.
    Drop that and an adult conversation can begin.
    And those who agree with military intervention are the one's being hateful. IMO.
    Going in and starting a war with neighborhoods isn't a solution. Again, IMO.
     
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    Unfortunately Rhambo has let this situation get to the point where it may take military intervention to get a handle on it. This is a good example of how Democrats and their inability to deal with reality let's things fester to critical mass. It's like not dealing with infection in a foot and then having to remove the entire leg.
     
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    That or the hyperbole starts with accusing Trump of wanting to send in the military.

    Which brings us to the question of when did Trump say he wanted to send in the military?

    I heard him talk about sending in "the Feds", which was done recently in Baltimore:

    Federal agents meet with city homicide detectives to begin partnership
    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-federal-homicide-assist-20150803-story.html

    Furthermore, the mayor of Chiraq said he would welcome "the Feds":

    Emanuel to Trump: Chicago Would Welcome Federal Partnership to Quell Violence
    http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/war...chicago-violence-feds-comments-411778625.html
     
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    First off I doubt that Pres. Trump would call out the military. His first step would be through the DOJ, and FBI. Just as the Obama administration called upon the FBI to be called in when the there Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, and Freddie Gray cases were concerned. In this case Chicago is in dire need of DOJ intervention since it's obvious that Mayor Rahm Emanuel and his Progressive ilk have not been able to address the rampant high murder rates in the last 8 years.
     
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    You're in that type of country, and will be as long as Trump is President

    All conservatives are for big government, the biggest really as they are authoritarians to the bone. The only time they talk about small government is when it's for what they're against, which is being any kind of positive force in society

    OTOH it should be noted that Trump didn't say that he would send in the Army and does have the FBI, which has in fact a whole anti-gang branch. This is routinely sent in when this situation is found, as several other posts have pointed out.

    Trust Trump to make a fetish of routine, acting as if he's the first to do something. Mr Tough guy, doing what was going to be done anyway
     
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    Either way, military or fbi. Shootings will go on.
    How do they expect to stop the shootings?
     
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    Those Americans sent to Iraq have body armor, trained medics, medevac helicopters, and billions of dollars of other life saving technology that civilians in Chicago don't have. Of course more civilians are dying.
     
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    The Dems have run Chicago for generations and the crime wave & poverty gets worse and worse.

    Maybe a Trump adiminstration is well over due. Chicago is a welfare City & welfare produceses only one thing.... A dependent culture!
     
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    Lord, I don't know why I bother. Please, listen to yourself. Those Americans are fighting IN A FU*KING WAR ZONE. Body armor, medics - it doesn't matter, everyone they come across is trying to kill them.

    And for the record, those citizens in Chicago have access to helicopters (if needed) and plenty of trained medics - called EMT's, paramedics - IDK maybe you've heard of them?

    This is a serious question, how old are you?
     
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    Citizens in Chicago have medics around them 24/7 like the military does? They are immediately available?
     

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