Liberal hatred of Trump is going to get Americans killed

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Feb 10, 2017.

  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just think 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world, if there are only 2 percent that are terrorists, imagine 32 million of them attacking?
     
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    Trump's ban is unconstitutional, says the political court. Those judges proved to be more like political activists pursuing their own hidden agendas instead of defending the Constitution.. Federal judges have no jurisdiction over foreign policy and national security. They set a dangerous precedent.
     
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    I said it would become a power struggle, and that in itself speaks volumes for what President Trump is up against.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One day (when it's too (*)(*)(*)(*)ing late :roll: ) the apologists will understand that simple fact, and will stop trashing The Donald and instead wish him the best of luck in dealing with it for them. But until then they'll still keep churning out their crap on this messageboard I'm afraid.
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who recalls the dialogue we got from Democrats post 911? I recall very well. None of it got blamed on Clinton. Per the Democrats, proper protection can take years and years to pull off. But all we got was Bush did this or did that.

    Who thought common airplane pilot trainees would head civilian air transport planes into tall buildings.? This was not even on Democrats minds since they were dealing with guilt over the Cole bombing. Bush learned it was possible more Muslims would attack at foreign ports and maybe embassies. But who did the democrasts blame over 911?

    Now they want to blame Saudi Arabia. Why blame the deported Bin Laden when you could blame the leaders of Saudi Arabia went their cries of rage. If we get attacked by terrorists, they won't get blamed by Democrats, Trump will get blame.

    Though for Obama, that messiah had no fear of taking blame.
     
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    You sound like one of those people hiding in a closet begging to give up individual rights and freedoms over fear of an external threat.

    The risk of harm from terrorism is 400 times less than the risk of harm from "walking".

    Trump does not give a rats arse about Muslim terrorists. If he did he would have included the biggest state sponsor of terrorism on his list = Saudi Arabia followed by Pakistan and Albania. Claiming "Security" is a joke without inclusion of these nations.

    It would also help if Obama had not been arming and supporting terrorists/radical Islamist Jihadists in Syria (including Al Qaeda/Al Nusra and ISIS and others of the same ilk) since 2011. Arming them with sophisticated weapons such as shoulder launched surface to air missiles (perfect for taking out an airliner like the one in Egypt). Capeesh ?

    Hopefully Trump can manage to discontinue this tradition.

    Bush, and then Obama have been going around in the Middle east turning countries into Jihadist wonderlands. Is it not rather stupid to hit a hornets nest with a stick and expect not to get stung?

    These idiots can not even figure out the difference between a Muslim and an Islamist. The ban should be on "Islamists". This avoids naming any particular country and a religious test.

    The mainstream media refuses to use the correct terminology (Islamist) to protect the establishment. If the raging masses start figuring out who the terrorists are they might start to ask uncomfortable questions such as "Why Santa ... why are we giving extremist Islamist Jihadists (people who hate individual rights and freedoms/liberty) weapons to kill people who want freedom from Strict Sharia/theocracy/totalitarianism.

    Wake the frick up.
     
  7. Media_Truth

    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    What countries were these radicals from?
     
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    I will take a shot a this one ... They are from numerous countries to which Saudi Arabia exported its extremist version of Salafi Islamist ideology.

    Taliban, Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, Islamic Front, Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Shaabab all share the same Saud inspired Salafi Islamist ideology.

    Its no secret that 90% of the 911 terrorists were from Saud and it is no secret that to this day, hating Jews and Christians (and even Muslims that do not share their extremist ideology) is taught to children in Saudi schools as part of the curriculum.

    Saud has been exporting this extremist ideology all over the world and giving these groups loads of arms and support.
     
  9. Johnny Brady

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    No offence mate, but are you a hardcore fire-and-brimstone preacherman obsessed with the Old T?
    Fact is, Jesus trashed the Old T's harshness by giving us the New T (the clue is in the name) or hadn't you noticed?..:)
    That's why people soon realised-
    "The covenant of which Jesus is mediator is superior to the old one" (Hebrews 8:6)
    "The law was given by Moses,but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ" (John 1:17)
    "Through Jesus we are saved, and not through Moses" (Acts 13:39)
    "Jesus saved you from the empty way of life handed you by your forefathers" (1 Peter 1:18 )
    "We serve in the new way of the spirit, not in the old way of the written code" (Romans 7:6)
     
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    What never happened? It's a fact they were arrested for trespassing!
    But let's give them the benefit of the doubt, perhaps they weren't pouring lethal chemical/biological stuff into the infidel's water, and were perhaps just innocently peeing and pooping in it instead..;)
     
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    Americans are no threat to others. Islam however is a threat to civilization.

    Must be liberal stupidity to deny those facts.
     
  12. Papastox

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    OBAMA targeted those nations. Trump was using HIS list. Libs sure have a short memory and use their own alternative facts.
     
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    ummmm, no. Do you know how our government works? Yea they kinda stepped out of line in the sense that they aren't supposed to claim something is unconstitutional until someone actually takes it to court, but they have jurisdiction over just about anything provided it shows up in court. It's their job to block unconstitutional laws, but they can't step out of the court and block something without its constitutionality being questioned in court in the first place.
     
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    HailVictory Banned at Members Request

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    Well that's partially because the UN is not actually an equal organization that puts every country on an equal playing field, and they have a knack for telling other sovereign nations what to do.
     
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    so very true!
     
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    I'd suggest you have a little more confidence in a large block of American voters. Instead of accusing them of being rabid animals that need to be put down, perhaps look for what their genuine grievances are. Progressives or 'liberals' as you like to call them learned the hard way not to dismiss any block of voters. Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. That hurt to say it but it's true. Those of the conservative persuasion should not do the same.

    Accusing whole communities of evil intent is unhelpful.
     
  17. Natty Bumpo

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    I'm amused when the Trump cult bleats, "Our messiah is just like Obama!", but their phony pretext craps out immediately. President Obama never issued an illegal executive order banning all folks from those nations. Trump did, and his cult should not be pretending otherwise and trying to hide behind his predecessor.



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    ..and 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot.. :D
     
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    If Trump was worried at all about Americans dying he would resign so obviously he doesn't care
     
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    Well, being a white American Christian he was probably either 'misunderstood' or suffering temporary mental malfunction, so nothing to see there, folks. Move on and blame all Muslims, that's the ticket. Oh, and it helps to show the low-information types a few hadiths from the Koran as empirical proof that Islam is a vile, bloodthirsty cult. They also don't get that using words like 'crusade' (GWB) when referring to Muslims, is no less bellicose-sounding to Muslims than the word 'jihad' is to a Trump fan.
     
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    In 2014, Including the 9/11 attacks, there's been 3064 deaths in the US from terrorism.

    By contrast there's been some 6,500 US soldiers killed and almost 60,000 wounded along with more than half a million Muslims killed in the US invasions of various Muslim countries around the world.

    Maybe its time we looked at our policies to see where the real problems lie.
     
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    The whole "punch a Nazi" thing is mostly white liberals trying to get other people to be violent for them.
     
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    Natty- that is true. There is a bit more to it of course, in that the Constitution IS the prime directive, the law that defines the way all other laws shall be applied. The duty of the court is to interpret the law using the Constitution as it's standard- not to re-interpret the Constitution to fit whatever outcome it would prefer to see in any particular case. When jurists allow their ideological passions to enter into the way they see the meaning of Constitution, things can get pretty dicey.

    This has already been done in dozens of major situations. The Constitution guarantees you will be free from unreasonable search and seizure- but try to board an airplane, be you an old lady or a small child or a wheel-chair bound veteran- and you will be searched. Things which are not weapons (like too large a water bottle) may be seized, based on vague suspicions.There is no probable cause for the vast majority of that, and in the 16 years it has been going on not a single terrorist has been caught by it- but they are searching 1.75 million people per day. All of that is enabled by an end-run around the Constitution included in the "patriot" act. Your government now spies on you, lies to you, steals from you and more- because the Constitution is being seen more and more as an obstacle rather than a guidebook by judiciary who are less and less faithful to their duty and more sympathetic to special interests and political pressure.
     
  24. Natty Bumpo

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    All true, yet, imho, our judicial system, with its internal checks and balances via multiple opportunities for appeal, is far less subject to "ideological passions" than are hyper-partisan politicians who lash out hysterically when rulings do not go their way.


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    Wait until 20 million get kicked off Obamacare, and your claim will most certainly come true.
     

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