Liberal hatred of Trump is going to get Americans killed

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  1. TeaAddict

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    Have you turned on the TV since January 20th?
     
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    I'm a trump voter and I would love to see a leftie come at me. I'm 6ft 8inches tall and over 300 pounds so I would love someone to try.
     
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    They only attack when they feel safe .
     
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    I agree with that as well. However I believe the pressure used these days to manipulate the judiciary is both substantially greater than what used to be tolerated, and the degree of success due to that has also increased at least in proportion, maybe more. The battle over choice of a supreme court justice always divides over personal issues and ideology. Both sides want to adjust the view of the court by stacking the deck, just as a lawyer wants to load a jury with favorable choices. Impartial is on the list of qualities required as more of a recital than a requirement.

    Injustice and the bending of justice breeds contempt for the process, and that breeds rejection and loss of faith and support. Short term goals are served by that distortion, but long term results for the nation suffer greatly from it. If the rules are not consistently fair- soon there will be no rules.
     
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    You are partially correct. Look at what the UN does with Israel and the human rights issues created in Africa by the UN "Peace Keeping" Forces.
     
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    As the case of Merrick Garland amply demonstrated, party politics trumps even ideology in the contrivance of Supreme Court appointments.

    Fortunately, there have been several judges whose judicial temperament has frustrated a party's agenda.

    Unanticipated consequences can be a solace when all else spells disaster.
     
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    Just so you know...not only Liberals hate Trump.
     
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    I'm more afraid of liberals than Muslims.
     
  9. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You might be right. Liberals can destroy the country. We can alway shoot muslim terrorist.
     
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    Amen. (Truth.)

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    Perhaps.

    But make no mistake about it... MILLIONS of Americans dislike/despise Nazis and fascists. Many know/remember that lesson from history.
     
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    While that is true there are no intelligence reports that are identifying this as a threat.

    Please note that the law the administration is citing states that the president must "find" a threat and a "finding" is a statement of fact. The administration has failed to provide any "facts" establishing that people, based solely upon being born in these countries, represent a "threat" of terrorism to the United States. If fact intelligence sources can't even do that for people born in Saudi Arabia where people from Saudi Arabia have committed terrorist attacks inside of the United States. National origin is not a basis for a "finding" of a terrorist threat.

    That is false. Cited is the Visa Waiver Program that addresses people from any nationality traveling to the seven countries based upon a "national security threat" that isn't specific to terrorism. For example Iran is no the list and Iran doesn't have any terrorist groups operating within Iran nor is it an unstable government. The Visa Waiver Program does not address people born in any of the seven countries identified.

    Once again this is another false statement. All visa applications are subject to "vetting" procedures developed by the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security that are basically under constant review and revision to ensure against any foreign citizen entering the United States. Since 9/11-2001 the vetting process has been basically perfect because no foreign terrorists have entered the United States and committed a terrorist attack.

    The United States doesn't have a foreign terrorist threat today. We have a domestic terrorist threat and Islamic terrorism isn't even at the top of that list.

    Where did this nonsense originate. Syrian refugees are fleeing both the tyranny of the Syrian government and the terrorism of ISIS. Most are not identified for relocation overseas by the United Nations that provides the initial vetting prior to the refugee even being referred to the US vetting process that is extremely effective. In the last 40 years not a single refugee admitted to the United States has ever committed a terrorist act. Their children have but that represents a domestic terrorist attack because they're marginalized after coming to the United States and did not enter the United States with any predetermined commitment to commit an act of terrorism.
     
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    Poisoned by Republicans.
     
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    Yes. Imagine. That's what conservatives do best: imagine danger everywhere they look. They're such cowards.
     
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    No Democrats in office blamed Bush after 9/11, even though he was negligent and incompetent in keeping America safe from foreign attackers. They rallied around the president. How very different from Republicans, who blame Obama for lone wolf mass murders committed by Americans.
     
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    So, you're claiming there's no violence in the New Testament?
     
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    Well now, that shows what you're made of. I'm only 6' 6" and 225 lbs but I have a 3rd degree black belt in MMA and as a Yankee I would love to meet you. Too bad you live in the most backward state in the nation and a good distance from Oregon.
     
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    A Muslim ban may cause more harm than good as causality can be a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*). To assume the best or worst case scenario will happen is premature.
     
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    Do you seriously think that being a hulk gives you credibility in public policy?
     
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    There hasn't been a Republican Mayor of the city of Flint Michigan since 1962. Dayne Walling(D) was the Mayor of Flint from 2009 to 2015. Flint mayor Karen Weaver elected 2015 diverted water-crisis money to Democratic Party political PAC designated as "Karenabout Flint."
    The decision to access the Flint river for potable water was a local one decided by the Mayor of Flint and her administrator and Natasha Henderson(D). There were no Republicans involved in this disastrous transfer of using potable water from Detroit to the Flint River.


    How Flint, Michigan, Saved Money and Poisoned Its Children ...
    https://www.democracynow.org/2015/12/17/how_flint_michigan_saved_money_and

    December 17, 2015
    -- How Flint, Michigan, Saved Money and Poisoned Its ... She is the founder of Water You Fighting For?, a Flint, Michigan-based research and ... and they are responsible ...
     
  20. HT!

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    Omar Mateen (American) was not a threat to others?

    Richard Dear (American) was not a threat to others?

    Dylann Roof (American) was not a threat to others?

    Adam Lanza (American) was not a threat to others?

    George Hennard (American) was not a threat to others?

    John Oliver Huberty (American) was not a threat to others?

    Eric Harris (American) was not a threat to others?

    Dylan Klebold (American) was not a threat to others?

    Charles Whitman (American) was not a threat to others?

    Patrick Henry Sherrill (American) was not a threat to others?

    Aaron Alexis (American) was not a threat to others?


    You're not smart.
     
  21. HT!

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    2009?


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    Wingnuts are always violent. At 300 pounds your lard ass would move like molasses.
     
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    And just what are these "True Americans" going to do to these horrible liberals and activist judges?? Round them up and execute them in the street??


    To me it just sounds like more conservative hysterics.
     
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    [FONT=&amp]FLINT, MI -- Two former emergency managers appointed by Gov. Rick Snyder to run the city are among four defendants charged today with crimes related to the Flint water crisis.

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    http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2016/12/former_state_emergency_manager.html


    The original switching of the water supply was done out of ignorance of the conditions of the pipes. Once it was discovered, Republicans led by Snyder refused to intervene. So they bear responsibility for the further poisoning of residents, fully aware of the consequences of their actions.
     
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    Two former Flint emergency managers charged with water crisis crimes​


    Those charged Tuesday bring the number of defendants tied to the lead-in-water crisis to 13.
    Charges against Earley and Ambrose are false pretenses, conspiracy to commit false pretenses, willful neglect of duty and misconduct in office. Charges against Johnson and Croft are(*)false pretenses and conspiracy to commit false pretenses.

    No new criminal charges since July in Flint water crisis probe
    Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette promised that his investigation into the Flint water crisis would be thorough, exhaustive and independent
    Earley, who testified before the(*)Full House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform during congressional hearings in March, has said city(*)workers assured him they could make the Flint River safe to drink before distributing it to citizens(*)two years ago.
    State and federal officials have since said that the city failed, and the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality allowed, the river water to be used without treating it to make it less corrosive to lead in Flint's water distribution system and home plumbing.
    In written comments to Congress, Earley has blamed Croft for telling him river water "could and would be treated to meet (DEQ) and (EPA) safe drinking water standards."
    Earley's comments have been in contrast to remarks by Mike Glasgow, Flint's utilities director, who raised questions about the city's ability to treat river water before the switch was made.
    Glasgow pleaded no contest to a charge of(*)filing false information about lead in Flint water and agreed to cooperate in other(*)in prosecutions as part of a plea agreement reached earlier this year.
    Glasgow has said he was following "marching orders" from supervisors to do whatever was necessary to start using the Flint River as soon as possible and warned(*)the DEQ that(*)the city was ill-prepared to begin full-time water treatment for the first time in nearly 50 years.


    http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2016/12/former_state_emergency_manager.html

    No where in the article you posted, was the governor blamed or charged with a crime.
     

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