National Security Advisor Flynn resigns amid controversy over Russia contacts

Chaffetz said Flynn's investigation is taking care of itself and won't commit to a Congressional hearing. Makes me wonder if he's been waved off, for now. The FBI didn't want to sign off on telling Trump about Flynn at first stating it could hamper their investigation. Seems to me that if warning Trump about Flynn would hamper an FBI investigation, more than Flynn is being investigated. Of course, that's just MNSHO.

 

It's literally the President's Article II power in the Constitution to discuss treaties.

 

Obama wasn't whispering to Medvedev that he would be able to "discuss" a treaty after the midterms. Presumably he could have done that at any time.

Just face it...you are stuck defending Obama for doing what Flynn supposedly did. LOL

 

Mike Pence takes over and he is a globalist neocon despite trying to sell himself as a conservative. He is their men and they're actively undermining Trump from the word go. All those leaks are coming from within.

 

...The difference being that Obama was literally the President while Flynn held NO position in the at the time current government's structure. How the hell do you just skip over that blatant divergence from reality? Oh... right. Republican.

And by the way, that's actually exactly what he was doing. Missile defense deals were being written that worried Russia, Obama said that he could talk with them more about it after the midterm. Politically Machiavellian? Sure. Outside of the acting President's role and power? Absolutely not.

 

Incompetence. Clearly, that's the reason he was fired a second time. He's developing quite a track record as a failure.

Read up on the Logan act. It was the timing of his call that is the issue. Not to mention straight out lying to the VP. He's clearly in violation.Perhaps if lying, corruption, and deceit wasn't par for the course for this administration, he might have thought before acting.

It's not the mainstream media or liberals fault that he's a fool who is now out of a job, so you can stop your petulant whining about that. As far as the leak, you should again look to the incompetent administration and their laughable and ironic process for vetting their own staff. Maybe extreme vetting isn't really a thing. That, or the administration doesn't know what they're doing. I'll go with the latter.

 

That's fantastic. A well informed poster. Would you be so kind as to elaborate then how many times a citizen Obama acted unconstitutionally during his reign as an emperor? How many times he was supposed to be impeached? An honest answer.

 

I'd probably go with he's just so incompetent and didn't know. This has Bannon written all over it, who plays trump for the fool he is. Trump's too bust lounging in his bathrobe and watching fox news to be bothered with the details of running the country.

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Conway seems like a safe bet. Bannon will likely barricade himself in some white house bunker and have to be removed by force. You have to wonder the conversation she had with herself when the trump job opened. Something to the effect of, "Am i ready to forsake all credibility I may have had and sell my soul for this clown?"

 

Lol, This pivoting is so blatant, and so, so feeble. We were talking about a specific thing, stop trying to muddy the waters with your endless distractions.

 

Already dealt with that.
Obama had no more right to violate some law or protocol than Ray Flynn did. But, as pointed out, to Obama fan boys, he can do no wrong and do as he pleases.

Having more "latitude" to change our missile policy is hardly the same thing as discussing it. Keep digging though.

 

Ok, so liberals make flynn contact the Russians and discuss sanctions before he held any formal office. Got it. Further, democrats made Flynn lie to the VP about the contents of his phone call he made in violation of the Logan act. Ok, got that as well.

I know it's tough times being a trump apologist but it looks like you're not even trying anymore.

 

If you could get the drug addict Linbaugh to off of his hydrocodone (or whatever pill or drug he's on) or brainless Sarah Palin (if she is not busy breaking up family fights or trying to figure out where Russia is located from her back yard) or yes, even the draft dodger Ted Nugent involved then I'd say yes because it would drive the lefties crazy. Crazy enough to get out next time and vote and send the righties packing.

 

What law would Obama have violated?! Again, it's well within his Constitutional power, you know as President, to speak on diplomatic matters with diplomats.

All that was said was that he would have more flexibility after the Midterm Election. He never committed to overturning anything. You're reaching into nothingness and grasping at empty space.

 

Who was president in December?

 

Fanboyism (partisanship) is terrible for politics, that's for sure. But 0bama fanboyism isn't the issue of the day now, is it? The shoe is on the other foot.

 

Stop with the red herrings over and over again. Not talking about Obama's speech, for the last time!
We're talking about his promising the Russians he would have latitude after midterms to bend to their opposition in dismantling the missile shield that they wanted out of Poland, for instance. Stop with the weasel-like behavior.

HE (Obama) was the one telling the Russian leader he would be able to act on their behalf when he had political cover. You are purposely obscuring the point of Obama's message to the hated Russians before they were hated by the left.
I'm not going to tolerate and suffer through your repetitious blather any longer.

 

EVERYBODY knows phone calls are being monitored/recorded, have you ever heard of Snowden? I'm sure that Flynn knew but as the old saying goes 'it's not the crime ( there was none ) it's the cover up'. Flynn resigned which was appropriate, Dems would get a raise and a pension.
You guys live on rumors, how about we wait for the facts, too hard, can't wait?
Oh puhleez, you guys nominated a candidate that gave confidential/classified information to a housekeeper and the world.

 

It sure is the issue when Obama quislings want to continue to hold him to a different standard than they hold others.
Obama is making himself part of this whole process (the delegitimizing of the presidency through his Organizing for Action).

 

Tough time? In what way? I really don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about Democrats beating themselves in the chest in righteous fury (they're on TV right now). Why? I remember seeing the same Democrats keeping mouthes shot when Hillary was investigated for much the same (*)(*)(*)(*).

We'll be fine.

 

Obama wasn't President in July 2008 when he met with foreign leaders about how an Obama White House would conduct it's foreign policy.

 

It is the height of hypocrisy and stupid blind partisan pomposity to worse yet excuse what Gen. Flynn did
by equating it to what Hillary foolishly did. You excuse the fact that Flynn may very likely compromised the president of the United Sates by promissing the Russians something. We saw that Putin backed off imposing counter sanctions on us but why. Are going to claim that the KGB scum Turd found Jesus?

Trumpeizdas are behaving like Traitors and that makes me sick.

 

The President has the power to negotiate with foreign governments, end of story, bud. That is one of his Constitutional duties. Whether or not the Republican led Congress likes that is beyond the matter entirely. You're haphazardly trying to muddle the water while ignoring the most prescient difference between that incident and this one, General Flynn was not a part of the government at the time of his discussion with Russia. Trying to argue that Obama "undermined" the government when he was literally the Executive Power of this government is just ludicrous, but it's an entirely moot point to what we're actually discussing. Just pathetic whining and "Whataboutism".

 

But did that meeting result in an enemy of the US to back off from responding to something that Bush did?

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Obama's use of EO's is not an excuse for Flynn to have POSSIBLY committed treason.

 

Earlier today, and to our complete surprise, no less, Nancy Pelosi joined in the chorus of angry liberals calling for further investigations into Trump's ties to the Kremlin. The House Minority Leader expressed her faux outrage via a statement posted to twitter calling for, among other things, "a bipartisan, independent, outside commission to fully investigate Russia's influence on the Administration and the election." Ironically, we "do not recall" Pelosi asking for an "independent commission" when actual, tangible evidence emerged proving that Hillary and her team intentionally ignored a Congressional subpoena calling for the preservation of email records...we assume she just forgot.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...ee-declines-calls-investigate-flynn-situation

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The question has been asked on some talk shows... How did Pelosi manage to accumulate a net worth of $100 million on a Congressional salary of only about $174,000 a year over the course of her terms?
The numbers don’t add up! If you ask me it's Polosi who needs to be investigated!

At this point she’ll be turning 80 in about 4 years! Enough already! Time to go Pelosi!

Nancy Pelosi Net Worth
http://net-worths.org/nancy-pelosi-net-worth/

The current salary (2016) for rank-and-file members of the House and Senate is $174,000 per year.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscongress/a/congresspay.htm

 

Did he make specific promises to the foreign leaders that went directly against Bush's policies at the time? If not, then this is a non-parallel.