1957 vs 2017 Are things better?

LOL! The Repubs fear of that "" book larnin' "" thing ...hilarious....

Funny how you think nothing happened before you were born because you can't read anything about it in a book.....


...and, of course, couldn't refute one word of my post :

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OH typical Repub, BLAME THE WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What misogynistic rot!

Most women didn't have any recourse...and IF you ever DARED pick up a book on the subject you'd know how hard it was for woman back then when their husbands beat them and no one would believe them or told them THEY MUST'VE DONE something to deserve it (LIKE YOU DID), or they should suck it up to be a "good" dutiful wife....what hate you must have to try to blame women......of course men ARE notorious for not accepting personal responsibility.......

Well , guess what , when women started SUING the police for not protecting THEM things started to change and now the law protects women the same way it protected everyone else....sad day for YOU!
It SHOULDN'T have needed a separate law because it was assault but in those day some Really Ignorant People thought a wife was oned by her husband and he could do what he wanted even rape her....HA HA sad for you husbands can't do that anymore either

And it was condoned by many whether with out and out acceptance or refusal to step in



What utter ignorant , angry , misogynistic rubbish....You seem like a very woman hating/fearing person.





I wasn't in the "substratum" of frightened misogynists so our paths never crossed back then """""""""""""""

 

In every generation "some parents raised their kids right, some didn't".

No parent was perfect 50, 100, 500, 1,000 years ago ( humans have been around a really long time, there have been parents for a really long time...)


This repeated thread, that stupid OP email has been around SINCE emails were invented, always brings out the uneducated who think their Little Tiny Life defined everything that happened and that just isn't true.

I repeat:Speak for yourself. Worship of greed, hate, wealth and materialism weren't invented in the 20th century...see the world is older than that and those things have always been around....

I'm a boomer and spent my life working hard, paying my bills and my taxes.....to lump every one in one generation and then saying how they were all bad is stupid."""

 

You'll never change, always the dodge ...


Ya, you can't ever address the content of a post that presents you with facts....or asks those inconvenient questions

 

Your inability to understand what I said does not mean I said nothing. My point was that old people often lament their formative years as the good old days, and deride the current generation for their (fill in the blank). It's old as time, often wrong, and only proves the cynical nature of old people with regrets who blew chances.

The 50's were certainly not the good old days for large swaths of our population, namely women and minorities. The incoherent rambling of geriatric fools can be dismissed as just yet another "kids these days" blathering from those about to depart.

 

Again, subjective to what your race, gender and ethnicity was. The 50's were not a great time for women or minorities. It's a perfect example of geriatric, right wing delusion that rampant misogyny, racism, and bigotry were the good old days. As desperately as you'd like to turn back the clock, it's not going to happen.

 

You're missing out. There's nothing like the smell and feel of a brand new car.

That being said, unless you buying something that has low resale value (think a chrysler product), you're not getting much of a deal especially if you're financing. You may be letting someone else take the depreciation hit, but you're going to pay that back in increased interest rates on used cars.

 

Well, we did accept the once discredited and silly ideas of Goldwater, Buckley and the John Birch Society reformed as conservatism so I do blame all of us collectively. We are paying the price for the idea that "greed is good" and that "government is bad". Sorry but that is the political truth regardless of how you personally feel about it. Ike is gone, the GOP is nothing like it once was before we went over to the dark side in 1980.

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The reason we all think the past was better was because the past was shaped by our childhood. Most kids think fondly upon their youth. This sentiment has been around for centuries.

 

As has been said there were many things in the 50s that were far better than today and many things that were worse. Its all a matter of perspective . Personally Ill take the 50s. You tend to remember the good things more than the bad.

[video=youtube;ph7oZnBH05s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph7oZnBH05s[/video]

 

Since I don't consider greed good or government bad I am NOT included in your ""blame all of us collectively"".....

Worship of greed, hate, wealth and materialism weren't invented in the 20th century...see the world is older than that and those things have always been around....

.....to lump every one in one generation and then saying how they were all bad is stupid.

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...and it's all a matter of what subject is being discussed..

 

Even then with things like divorce it can be argued we are better off now with no fault divorce or were we better off when families toughed it out like in the 50s?

 

At least 1957 didn't see today's religion of white male victimhood, which is rather pathetic.

 

I lump everyone including me in the nightmare we created by our own selfishness. Sorry, we are all responsible collectively for letting this happen. I will give you a hall pass though if you voted for Bernie.

 

We are better off with no fault divorce. We are better off with a lot of things.....I never claimed any difference.....in fact I claimed things are certainly better for women and blacks...

I am not one who views the past with rose colored distorted glasses.

 

Well you take on the guilt if you want to but I had no part in it since I don't consider greed good or government bad I am NOT included in your ""blame all of us collectively"".....

I have , for many years, wished Sanders would be the President....

 

I love to harken back to the 50's. It was my favorite decade. A few corrections: Alcoholism was NOT the norm and nor was wife beating. Children were not beaten either. I never saw a Mexican anywhere (lived in New York State). Homosexuals were not hated, just ignored. The subject never came up. I don't recall people dying younger, but they must have because cigarette smoking was common and nearly universal. Television, if you had it, was wonderful, but black and white. People were proud to be Americans. There was very little mixing of the races so everyone got along just fine. We admired the President. We were proud of our history. I loved those solid steel cars, but they started to fall apart at 20,000 miles and you could get 10,000 miles from a set of tires. We used re-treads. Most moms were stay at home moms. You'd put on a suit to go to the movies. No one used swear words around women. There was no swearing in the movies. TV dinners were all the rage. I never saw or heard of anyone using illegal drugs of any kind anywhere. I liked IKE. We were afraid of the Soviets. Sputnik was a big deal. Baseball was the only sport anyone paid much attention to. There were no diet drinks that were popular. Cigarettes were cheap and you could smoke about anywhere. Pizza was new and you'd get it in Italian restaurants. Everyone carried a "church key" with them, or put one in their glove box. A new pair of sneakers cost $1.75. You rolled up the cuffs on your jeans. A haircut was a quarter.
The 50's ended with the Anti-Vietnam War movement and the Hippies. It was a massive social change and it was hard on most middle aged people. The Beatles changed music forever.

Today things are much different than they were in the 50's. I notice that TV today stinks and hatred between political parties and other groups is rampant. We Republicans didn't hate Democrats in those days. Members in the two parties in congress used to have picnics together. No longer. Racial hatred if it existed was pretty much kept under wraps except in parts of the South. There was very little mixing of the races. People joked about everything. Black jokes, Polish jokes were told all of the time. No one took offense, at least not in public. You had to learn to "take a joke". Practical jokes were commonplace.

It was a long time ago and now I am an old man and I look back on those years with fondness.

 

One secret to happiness is to lighten up and learn to roll with the punches. It is not a perfect world and never will be, so accept things the way that they are and learn to enjoy life. It is just as easy to be contented as it is to be aggravated, so put your fingers on that attitude adjustment knob and turn it to "Full Happy" and you will find life much better.

 

Of course we think that. It's also a fallacy to think that.

 

We were not at war in 1957. I am rather puzzled why you folks think our wars today are better than our days when we were not in war.

 

That's fair. However, I think you remember the 50's fondly because (and i'm assuming here) you're a white male. For white male's I can see how the 50's was indeed a good time. Everyone else though, I imagine feel differently.

 

Thank you so much. This is the sort of dialogue I hoped to be reading. You brought back memories also. The steel cars rusted, but not so much here in CA unless one lived where it snows a lot in winter, eg. Lake Tahoe.

We were not in war in 1957. Ike had concluded Truman's war on Korea. Anyway, it would be wonderful if just one darned time, the Democrats did not land on topics to ruin them. If they think they have it great today, why do they complain all the time?

 

How did this get racial?

However since you make it racial, are blacks having more fun today than back in 1957? If they like today, why all the whining all the time?

I was in the deep south but in 1962 in the summer. My purpose was to be at Ft. Benning, GA. Sure, I put gas in a blacks convertible, since he was broke but had this new Chevrolet, and asked him to drive us downtown Columbus, GA. He refused on the basis we would get beaten up. So for him, in 1962, he was not having fun.

I have a perspective of life then in CA where we lads did have plenty of fun. I expect though since we liked it then and you like it today, the whining by the Democrats can come to an end. Back then, in CA no less, i could actually walk down a street carrying a rifle and not fear the cops might stop me. Nobody cared.

 

Maybe it shouldn't have been racial but your synopsis was from one certain point of view. It seems others look back at this time in the USA a bit different. Unfortunately, race was a big part of the troubles back in the '50's and '60's.

 

Your assertion that the 50's were a good time, when in fact they were a good time for white christian men only. Did it already escape you what your own thread (which is just a ridiculous chain email, nice copy job) is about?

I don't really care about your anecdotal ramblings. They don't change the fact that 1950's America was a hotbed of bigotry, inequality, and racism for large chunks of the country. Of course I understand why right wingers think this was the good old days.

 

Clearly you forget about the cold war, which was in full swing by then. Just 5 short years after we nearly had a nuclear exchange with the soviet union. Just 5 years before we were stalemated in Korea. Not being at war does nothing to hide the rampant inequality that pervasive throughout society in the 50's.

 

Kennedy was elected in the 60s, not by 1957. I do well recall the cold war. Does that compare to wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and Yemen .... I mean, comon.

I lived then. Why did you assume I forgot about the cold war?

I had a black man for a client (among others i hasten to add) and he told me something I never forgot.

He looks at me and says, Nobody can make ME feel inferior without my permission.

That man is wise.

Here is his photograph.