Has a new American Civil War begun?

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  1. Kode

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    Links? You mean you haven't heard of Trump's obstruction of justice? :roflol:
     
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    You have proof? Links? How many times do we need to ask? Do you understand the legal concept of obstruction?
     
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    Can you give my an example of a successful country where capitalism has been eliminated?
     
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    Venezuela.............














    Oh wait. :D:roflol:
     
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    A lot of what FDR got done was due to his stacking the USSC deck. That's why the president only serves two terms now. Why are you worried about union membership when Democrats are so thrilled with free trade agreements that ships union jobs out of the country?
     
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    I think the wall was a thought that occurred to him during a speech. It snowballed.
    Kids being pumped full of drugs is not just since Muslim migration. It's been happening for nearly sixty years, and bombs are not solely a Muslim method. Remember the Weathermen?
     
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    Traditionalists favour money, socialists favour people.
     
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    I disagree. If by traditionalist you mean traditional conservatives, there was once a legitimate difference in economic philosophies. It was all about what is best for the country. We only differed on what works best. Beginning with Reagan we saw that the conservative economic platform [based on Ayn Rand Libertarianism] drives up the debt. That is when the debt problem began - with Reagan. Tax breaks for the rich translate into greater debt for everyone.

    Now, neoconservatives who laughably call themselves traditionalists, are anything but traditional. They have abandoned the core principles of conservatism. They try to blur the lines by throwing in religious extremism with social conservatism.

    For example, any real conservative would support the legalization of drugs. That is a States right issue and a personal choice issue. But the "traditionalists" claim controlling people's personal lives is the governments job.

    Anyone who thinks Trump is "traditional" is seriously out of touch with reality. You can bet your pssy on that. Trump could only be traditional is he was served up as a turkey dinner for Thanksgiving.

    Late Edit: I said neoconservative. I should have said pseudo conservative.
     
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    This is an information war. It is a war between respectable media and the insanity of the internet. It is a war between real experts and arm-chair experts. It is a war between understanding and chaos. It is a war between decency and heartlessness. It is a war between patriots and nationalists. It is a war between Trumpers and the rest of the world.

    Patriots fight for principles and high ideals.
    Nationalists fight for control - the control of others.
     
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    So much for "the rule of law". If conservatives benefit by crime then they're all for it. I didn't know schadenfreude now means Gangsterism
     
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    Hey, they support a guy who condones cold-blooded murder and death squads. What are a few leaks?
     
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    I should have been more precise, you're right. Trump is not a true conservative.
     
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    Nor a true liberal. A true ******* fer shur
     
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    Socialist favor power.
     
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    Traditionalists favor freedom.

    Socialists are authoritarian.
     
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    I think Individualist and collectivist are more accurate. Both are authoritarian in their own ways.
     
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    "The noun traditionalist describes a person who believes the old ways are best, like a traditionalist who favors writing letters over sending emails. Sometimes, though, traditionalist describes someone so rigid that any new idea sounds like a bad one, like the traditionalist attitude that kept some American colonists from joining the Revolution.
    Because the Soviet state eventually strayed far from Marx's idea of socialism towards Lenin's totalitarian communism, socialism is now often used to mean everything from "fascism" to "progressivism." But in its purest form, socialism was a political, social, and economic system meant to empower the working class. In the U.S. today, though, it's often used as shorthand for "the services that government provides and which are paid for by taxes." Depending on who's talking, that idea is either a goal or a target."
    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/socialism
     
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    It's relatively easy to ignore snowflakes.
     
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    Unless you get caught in an avalanche.
     
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    Not your kind.
     
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    When the mafia takes out another crime family, it's generally good for everyone. :banana:
     
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    Do you understand the legal requirements of "proof"? When you ask for proof, you are asking for a court jury's verdict and the judge's sentence.

    Prior to that you may have admissible evidence but no "proof". So no, I don't have any proof just like you don't have any proof that Obama or Hillary committed any crimes.
     
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    As of now, you don't even have any credible evidence. I guess throwing a barrage of anonymous accusations at the wall and seeing if even one thing sticks is all you have. So nothing.
     
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    Since the alternative would be socialism and since socialism is in the developmental/experimental stage just as capitalism was for about 100 years, no, I can't. I have said many times here that there has never been a communist economy nor a successful, finished, stable socialist economy. It's all evolving and developing. And socialism in the 21st century will be very different than it has been in the past due to lessons learned from mistakes and failures.
     
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    The Democratic Party is not the party of the working class. We have two status-quo establishment parties and a few wannabees.
     
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