GOP 101: Shocking increase in the percentage of Republicans who think college is bad for US

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  1. Bow To The Robots

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    Of course it is. How is that relevant? Why are you more concerned with Christian indoctrination than you are with Judaic, Islamic, or other forms of indoctrination?
     
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    I learned so much more in the real world than I did in college. All the military taught me is "area beautification" (cleaning), weapons maintenance, and how to walk for a long time. When I was a contractor I learned so much about project management...more than I ever did in college
     
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    :facepalm:

    Oh? Does that make the debt go 'poof' into fairy dust?
     
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    Too many people getting liberal arts degrees on full scholarships.
     
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    it makes an investment in education for americans

    after world war two, congress did something similar with the 'gi bill'

    it paid off in spades, worked debt down and vastly raised the country's wealth

    "The Servicemen's Readjustment Act of 1944 provided a range of benefits for returning World War II veterans. It was designed by the American Legion, who helped push it through Congress by mobilizing its chapters, along with the Veterans of Foreign Wars. Benefits included dedicated payments of tuition and living expenses to attend high school, college or vocational/technical school, low-cost mortgages, low-interest loans to start a business, as well as one year of unemployment compensation. By 1956, roughly 8.8 million veterans had used the G.I. Bill education benefits, some 2.2 million to attend colleges or universities and an additional 5.6 million for some kind of training program.

    Historians and economists say the G.I. Bill a major political and economic success and a major contribution to America's stock of human capital that encouraged long-term economic growth."

    http://veteranseducationsuccess.org/gi-bill-history/

     
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    . Somehow you missed the point where scientists overwhelmingly lean liberal while an overwhelming majority of conservatives dismiss science.
     
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    Hello Mr. Zombie.
     
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    What school would you have been sending your kid to where she would have been indoctrinated? I went to college in the late 70's early 80's. I was struck by, compared to K-12 there was no social programming. After all I'm sure that those few B's throughout first through twelfth grades that I got were due to my so-called bad citizenship and not due to me not understanding the material. In college, where I earned all A's, I never had to deal with that silliness. My children went to college in the 2000's and are in agreement with me that the social programming of primary and secondary education was entirely absent in college.

    Considering that most who buy into the Republican Parry line tend to have no college experience, I can't help but think, that the lie of college level indoctrination works because those being deceived by it lack the experience to know that college is a whole different animal than high school.
     
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    Because, on a daily basis I have to deal with Christians and their silliness. All the Jewish and Middle Eastern people I know are non-religious.
     
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    Those who follow a pure epistemological approach to discovery can not lean in any political direction. If the point is to lean in a particular direction, then it certainly should be dismissed, no matter the direction of the lean.
     
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    What is it, a lie or it's works because some are too stupid to know the difference? The day a student walks onto the college campus for the first time most are out of HS and don't have the experience. You confuse me.
    The majority of college professors are liberal by a huge margin. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8427-2005Mar28.html. Now, are you going to tell me some of their liberalism doesn't leak out of their heads into young impressionable mushy minds? No thanks, I won't be buying any of your beach front property outside of Phoenix.
     
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    That's not the same thing. Neither you nor the Democrats are requiring service to our country in return for mopping up college debt.

    You want to shift the bill to taxpayers; nevermind that THIS taxpayer is already paying for two college tuitions.
     
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    And worse: far too many are getting those useless degrees with loans.
     
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    What a load of bull pucky. Most conservatives I know believe in medical science, mechanical science and most other types of science. Now do I believe that man has the power to shut the planet down because of a few cars that are on the road, no way. The earth is still here after eons of volcanic eruptions with nary a dude on the planet.
     
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    like i said, it's something similar and it paid off in spades

    it's amazing how easily republican politicians can pull your strings

    and trick you into voting against your own financial interests

    the democrat's plan wouldn't change your tax burden

    it would reduce the amount of tuition your kids pay

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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-is-bad-for-us.509456/page-7#post-1067736103
     
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    I suppose education is bad when you want a bunch of bible thumpers, war-hawks, and corporate puppets who are all scared to death of brown people running the country.
     
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    How very condescending of you. Define scientist/science so I can answer. As far as NASA, tell me, who was it that turned NASA into a muslim outreach program? Here's a hint. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/sci...-Nasa-must-try-to-make-Muslims-feel-good.html
     
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    i didn't say you're a republican, but you are making a republican argument (taxes)

    and i'm pretty sure you didn't vote for hlllary clinton

    i haven't moved anything, you're making ridiculous, nonsensical excuses based on propaganda form the gop
     
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    No, only Libs...
     
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    You do know that's why college tuition keeps on going up and up right? Democrats and Universities are in bed together, that's how they created this huge bubble


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    what a joke, here's the bed republicans want to keep you in:

    'Keeping Their Voters Stupid Keeps Republicans Elected'

    "Over the past six years after every election, a relatively common question is why do so many Americans dependably vote against their own self-interests. Despite poor white people in southern red states barely surviving on slave wages, welfare, food stamps, and no adequate healthcare, they routinely vote for Republicans openly campaigning on driving their constituents deeper into poverty. It is true that opposition to Democrats as surrogates for an African American President is driven by racial animus, but even that fails to explain poor white voters electing abusive Republicans promising to eliminate programs that keep them alive and block Democratic attempts to lift them out of poverty.

    Last week a judge in North Carolina ruled that a Republican privatization scheme was unconstitutional because it defunded public schools by shifting public education funds to private and charter religious schools. The judge correctly stated that the Republican scheme was to “siphon money from the public schools in favor of private schools, fund non-public schools that discriminate on account of religion, and to shift “public taxpayer money to private religious schools that have no legal obligation to teach them anything.” Besides a dirty privatization scam, N.C. Republicans want to keep the next generation of voters blind, dumb, and stupid so they will support policies that keep them in distress."

    http://www.politicususa.com/2014/08/30/keeping-base-stupid-republicans-elected.html

     
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    You certainly implied it when you said "I doubt you will watch my video... most republicans (sic) won't." And what do you mean by "taxes" ? That's not an argument, but rather just a word.

    By the way, I did watch your video. I don't disagree with anything Dr. Tyson said... however again I fail to see the relevance to this topic.

    No, I certainly did not - which still is no evidence that I am a Republican as you fallaciously asserted. Though my vote doesn't count unless I vote for a Democrat since I live in California.

    You have most certainly attempted to move the goalposts - the topic was religious indoctrination, specifically Christian, which you changed to the kinds of laws being made. What excuses - specifically - am I making? And what evidence do you have to support your (second) fallacious assertion that my argument is based on "GOP propaganda" ?
     
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    1. Remind us how we vote against our own interest with low taxes, low cost of living and where I live plenty of good paying manufacturing jobs ( I make around the same as I did up in Chicago over 65 thousand a year)



    2. It's common knowledge why college rates go up and up no matter how you want to deny it, Universities and Democrats are in bed together..

    And it appear the same thing happened in GB


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-£100bn-student-debt.509416/#post-1067729682


    From the link...


    He blamed "greedy" university vice-chancellors, who successfully lobbied the coalition government to increase the £3,000 cap on fees to £9,000
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    you brought taxes up, it's a republican scheme to promise lower taxes

    gullible republican voters eat it up

     

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