Benedict Arnold John McCain did it again!

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Just_Saying, Jul 28, 2017.

  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't get Democrats to do that.
     
  2. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As if you don't threaten.
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Robert, did you just admit to an illegal act? I'm serious.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wait, after he bombed Libya, blasted Lebanon, you wanted our troops to remain as targets? Are you really wanting wars?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    dont worry, i reported it
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I resent your attacks. I think you broke forum rules.
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good.; I shall do it to you from today forward. You will find you will be reported daily.
     
  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you're more than welcome to.
     
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    VietVet Well-Known Member

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    I was quoting:
    "Ken Mehlman, then Chairperson of the United States Republican National Committee, to describe the Democratic Party's call to withdraw troops from the Iraq War".
    The GOP wanted them to remain as targets....
     
  10. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I want to clear up something.

    I want you to finally learn the true Bush plan.

    Actually, proper credit goes to General Franks but Bush accepted it and approved the plan.

    1. Sneak up on Saddam. (Shock and Awe is what it got called)
    2. Rush him so fast he had no chance.
    3. Hit him 100 percent, not in stages
    4. Assist a new government
    5. Depart.

    General Franks started the departing after beating Saddam. Events changed so with new Army commanders, they changed.

    The war between Sunni and Shia started so our men ended up staying in Iraq longer. But that is not the Bush plan.
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And that's really what his vote is about.
     
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    Which the ignorant Bushies didn't even understand, so of course they didn't plan.
    Another factor was idiot Bremer disbanding the Iraqi army - the birth of ISIS.
    http://fpif.org/just-much-paul-bremer-blamed-rise-islamic-state/
    Iraq did NOTHING to us.
    Bush, like Trump, had a knack for picking corrupt and/or incompetent people.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Come again? General Franks planned. I mean his full staff did the planning. General Mike DeLong a very able Marine commander also was in the mix as he was just under Franks. Franks had the Navy planning, the Air Force. He collected all their plans.

    It is hard to blame Bush over a plan he nor the Chiefs of Staff had a role in.

    The claim Brenner disbanded the army still is very funny.

    What army was disbanded? It was on paper. There was no army to disband.

    They fled like yellow dogs being cased by bears.

    This always is so funny. Acting as if there was some Iraqi Army.

    This is still a myth.

    ISIS showed up under Obama. Cute how the Democrats lay the blame on Bush over Isis. Bush had nothing to do with Isis.

    Don't you wish Clinton never sighed the law demanding the ouster of Saddam? Think Bush would have disobeyed that law?

    Obama was no jewel in the crown. He fired tons of able men.
     
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    Yeah, terrible old John McCain didn't vote for a bill that would have raised premiums by 20%, uninsured 15 million people, and raised the deficit by ending some Obamacare taxes on the rich without any spending cuts. I encourage John McCain to fight for actual fixes to Obamacare that helps lower the cost without uninsuring tens of millions of people or destabilizing the market.
     
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    :truce:
    You are too far removed to talk with any further.
    Enjoy your version of reality.
    I always wonder how we could have been sold the BS to go into Iraq after the stupidity of Vietnam - it's because some never learned the lessons of history.
    Rewriting history is a bad idea - it prevents learning the lessons that need to be learned.
    Have a nice day.
     
  16. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is the typical democrat who refuses to read what actually happened.

    Good day. I studied this all during the war. I know how Clinton laid out the path too.

    As to me wanting a war with Iraq?

    Perish that idea. I fought Democrats daily who wanted war. I kept warning then during Clinton era it would end up in war. They blasted me and said there is no way Iraq would invade us. Sure, but we invaded them.

    I always wondered how it would turn out had Clinton never signed that public law to kick out Saddam.

    Read the Clinton law yourself to disabuse you of hate against Bush.

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=55205
     
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    I am not a Democrat - I am anti-GOP.
    I never voted for Clinton, I voted for Perot 2 elections.
    I did not hate Bush - I had contempt for him - Cheney I hated.
    You may have read, but falsehoods.
     
  18. Just_Saying

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    Obamacare is imploding from within everyone knows that. It has to go. Since they can't seem to get it together for a full repeal, at the least this would have been a good start. That was the plan. Reportedly it would initially raise premiums but that would soon change because insurance companies would start having to compete which would drive prices down. As it is, if nothing's done, there will be considerably more people uninsured than you mentioned.
     
  19. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am anti DNC. Perot lost me or I would have more than likely voted for him. When he quit, he lost me
    I don't hate Bush or Cheney. Bush is lied about,.

    So is Cheney lied about.
    Believe it or not, by Democrats.

    I do not consider books that are documented in official records to be lies.

    I notice you can't support things you claim.
     
  20. Robert

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    ACA is a terrible law. And it punishes innocent people. And believe me, the Democrats know prices will go up. This is their plan. then they want to blame it on Trump. Though they say there will be no changes to the law. Democrats lie a lot, the ones in congress of course.
     
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    not as bad as the proposed GOP replacements.
     
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    Standard religious nonsense says a deathbed conversion gets you to heaven. McCain has earned his ticket.
     
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    Let us know which year prices went down. The Republicans have now had almost seven years to come up with a better plan and of course have failed miserably.
     
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    What did you expect?
    What did you expect. After all, “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
     
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    My point is McCain will NEVER give the WH a major legislative victory, never. A nevertrumper. As long as McCain supports a conservative SCOTUS nominee I'm fine. Barrycare will fail on it's own. I might add it's early and hopefully the Reps will put something in the books prior to 2018 elections.
     

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