Q: Do you think the Democratic Party currently stands for something, or just stands against Trump?

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is just not true. You are believing the left wing propaganda. The GOP agreed to Obama's budget items constantly.

    Hearing this garbage constantly repeated by the "Useful Idiot" crowd does not make it true.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To be fair, so does the establishment Republicans. They vote for most of Obama's big spends throughout.

    If you want smaller government, you want: Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, etc.... those are the real leaders of reducing the burden on our children.
     
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    You could not be more wrong. Your just making things up now.

    The first budget passed by congress during Obamas presidency was 2015

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/5/senate-clears-way-final-passage-congress-budget/

    Now who is the "useful" idiot ?
     
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    The DNC has a real problem they need to get sorted if they want to win elections. People very unhappy with Trump are not committing to the democrats and many of those are left-leaning normally democratic voters like the bernie supporters who went with Trump.
     
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    Both parties share the same platform of staying in power as long as possible. Every time their mouths move, it's about achieving that single goal. They care not what they say, because their loyal puppy dogs won't care that they just completely changed the position they had while the other team was in/out of power. They don't believe anything they say. If they did, they wouldn't change their mind on all these issues when a different party gets control.

    So predictable and infuriating.

    I don't know who is worse, because they wouldn't have the power to be total jerks if it weren't for the party loyalists who vote for these ****** bags over and over and over again.

    Not one of them cares about the country or your personal values. They just mouth words they think will get them votes.
     
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    Maybe once upon a time, but even the few rational mainstream Democrats know their party has given up on the middle class in their never-ending vendetta against Trump. They are leaving the party that left them for radical hatred. The only way to try to regain their reputation is to work on health care, tax reform, infrastructure, etc for the sake of their constituents and the nation, but they are laser focused on destroying Trump. They are the party of hate.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    (1) Immigration Reform - You mean violating the law with Sanctuary Cities? Everyone speaks for legal immigration reform.
    (2) Health Care for All - You mean Communism and sub-standard health care at an increased cost to the Middle Class.
    (3) Raising the Minimum Wage - You mean Anti-Free Market Economics which hurts workers, employers, and the economy and causes inflation
    (4) Protecting the rights of minority populations - Your party is the party of Slavery, Dredd Scott, Anti-Civil Rights, and Racism in today's America by legislation.
     
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    Who wouldn't? He's a short fingered vulgarian con man as NY people know.
    Pathological liar, vagina grabber bragger. What to like?
     
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    Budget items and the total budget aren't the same, but it helps to get them in on time, which Obama was awful at accomplishing.

    This link is just in his first term alone:

    https://budget.house.gov/hbc-publication/276880/

    It also didn't help when his own party wouldn't vote for them either. Remember the 414-0 shellacking on one of them?
     
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    (1) You don't know the history of sanctuary. Obviously never walked 2000 miles to avoid getting killed
    (2)Keep gov out of my Medicare as the trumpie said.
    (3)dems then believed in no gov and individual. They are repubs now. Gawd talk about living in the past
    (4) Are you sucking off your socialist VA, SS Medicare welfare?
    Do tell
     
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    A vote for a Republican Congressman is not necessarily a vote for Trump - the GOP is undergoing a major battle for its identity. If more traditional Republicans win out, then the Republican Party will oppose Trump almost as much as the Democrats do. If the neo-nationalists complete their takeover and increase their presence in the Senate, then that will be seen as an endorsement of Trump and his vapid policies.
     
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    You're half right. Throw in the republicans and you'll have the whole picture.
     
  14. Talon

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    No doubt, some Republicans are as bad as all Democrats...
     
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    They are all the same
     
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    T_K_Richards Well-Known Member

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    Nope none of those things are what I meant. If you believe what you wrote is actually true that explains why you have such absurd views about the Democratic party. Hyperbole is pathetic.
     
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    T_K_Richards Well-Known Member

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    You must be young or one who ignores history if you think the pendulum won't swing back away from the Republicans. They currently control or have the majority all three branches of government and people are getting pretty fed up with congress and the president. I would expect to see a big shift over the next 2-4 years.
     
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    The left doesn't stand for anything today other than hate.

    They have no platform, no ideas, they can't even admit Obamacare is broken but blame republicans for not fixing it.

    They are an utter mess.
     
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    No, they're not, but I'd enjoy listening to you explain how Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders are the same...
     
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    Does the Democratic Party stand for anything? Yes.

    The Democratic Party stands for:

    Sending American jobs to foreign child labor sweatshops
    Importing millions of cheap immigrant labor to keep wages in the USA low for corporations
    Militarism and war
    Fascist end to freedom of speech
    Destroying American economic and social values
    Hating the USA and USA history
    Racial segregation and conflict
    Maximizing the number of people living a welfare lifestyle
    Creating government dependency
    Hated of American capitalism, manufacturing and free enterprise
    Socialism
    Totalitarian federal system of government
    Hatred of Christians and Christianity
    Hatred of Israel
    Hatred of police
    Extreme intolerance and xenophobia
    Anarchists protests and riots

    Just to name the most prominent
     
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    Well, they can still stand for transgender bathrooms, stupid pronouns, "free sh*t", monument removal, the rewriting of history, and the inspiration for riots. Wooot, go Democrats!

    Signed,
    independent voter who may never vote Democrat again at this rate
     
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    Against Trump, without a doubt
     
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    Ok, of the 535, probably 530 are corrupt, some, I assume, are good people.
     
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    They seem to be allied with the haters and terrorists.

    Alt-Left Leader Vows to ‘Crush Skulls’ at Conservative Prayer Rally with Nail-Embedded Bat

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