Does Society fail people who are considered Losers?

If they can easily be 'mistaken' for capable/able, then they are capable/able.

 

it takes no work at all to stay out of prison.

 

"Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser."
Patton

 

Wow. Just wow. Sometimes you leave me speechless.

 

Only society is guilty on all people failures.More True Christianity, more Capitalism, more Tradition Values and lesser Liberalism is recept of success.

 

The lack of support needed by many people is Society's fault.

 

Many people who have no source of income sell drugs.

 

Not really the case.

 

In the United States, you still have the freedom to succeed, or to fail. It is up to the individual! Like it is with any other species on Earth, you adapt, or you don't do so well. Socialism? Nothing but an 'over-with' crutch, mostly for slackers, bums, and lazy bastards.

For the relatively few who are afflicted with birth defects, terrible diseases, or horrible injuries, it is totally different, of course! Those poor people deserve to have help from the government throughout their lives. The rest? They had the freedom to fail, and they chose to do just that. Let them continue to pursue their 'destiny' of being failures until they finally stop existing... then remove the remains and make room for someone who wants at least to TRY to do something with their lives.... It's a finite planet with finite resources... we don't have the ability to be dragging along worthless deadwood with us everywhere we go.

Summation: you earn your living, amass your own wealth, or you're little more than a parasite. It's a luxury the world can't afford anymore....

 

Coolio.

I've been in the game a long time. I have no patience for excuse pathologies.

 

But most don't.

 

Then how is the mistake made? If you're incapacitated (mentally or physically) it's pretty obvious.

 

No, no, no. God no. The unemployment is around 7% here and that number only counts the ones who registered as unemployed. Furthermore, Unemployment Service will send the registered on useless courses and while they are at the course they disappear from the stats (lol).

 

"Society" does not owe anyone anything. Most people who are "losers" have had awful parents and awful friends. It all starts in the family.

Now, if you are born with a serious disability it is of course not your fault and refering to these people as "losers" or "failures" is just distasteful.

 

how so-why does your existence demand others take care of you?

 

Well said, there are many that "fail" and I use that term loosely because most people fail at something at lest once in there life and still feel very good about their life. Those that fail at getting a well paying job sometimes are lazy, other times making an error in what they should be focusing on, sometimes it's bad luck and also there are cases that life just dealt a person a horrible hand to use in life.

I would say percentage wise overall the person that failed is the person at fault most of the time. But there are many things that could reasonably cause a person to fail and not overcome that failure. The odds of one of those things happening to a person are small, but they do happen.

Those born with a serious disability or that though no fault of there own get one most of the time I think are let down by others. People try their best but can't quite really put themselves in the same shoes. I by mistake once insulted a color blind person by complaining they couldn't see green. It wasn't my intent to forget they were color blind but I did.

 

Unfortunately, for many people succeeding is so difficult as to be impossible.

 

Thank you -- unfortunately I am not familiar with Sweden.

Do unemployed people get shelter and food and medical care?

 

I believe the Society has ethical duty to care for people who can not take good care of themselves. Ethics is beyond proof.

 

Many people who are considered lazy in fact have Disability or very difficult circumstances or both.

 

Explain that to me. I can think of a thousand ways for someone to succeed in life and only 1 way to fail. In the US today, the only way for somone of sound mind and body to stay poor, no matter where you start in life, is to make bad life decisions on a regular basis.

Some people have minor issues that make everything harder. Life is hard and the world isn't fair. Either work through it or drift away. I'm not going to concern myself with you.

For the people that truly aren't able to care for themselves, we have failed as a society by not properly supporting facilities for those with severe mental illness or communities for those whos illness is too severe for the 'real world' but can perform limited tasks for themselves.

 

I have Moderately Severe Autism, and Moderately Severe Depression. About 44 million Americans have Moderate Mental Disability and 10 million Americans have Severe Mental Disability. They may seem well but they are not.

 

I am sadly not an important person. But 44 million people with Disability are. 59,000 people in USA alone who died from overdose in 2016 are.

 

I do too, I just don't believe in feeding the malignant growth of a collectivist nanny state which is often the goal, rather than a means, for many on the left

 

So you are incapable of holding down a job? What I've seen from your posts doesn't suggest that.