"Let Me Tell You Who Obama Pardoned" Trump Destroys Reporter Over Joe Arpaio Pardon

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  1. VietVet

    VietVet Well-Known Member

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    The entire US was racist before around 1950.
    Most of us evolved past that, some haven't.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would innocence need pardoned? He was only "guilty" of upholding federal law. He stood up for what was right and deserved our president having his back.

    I know he was not popular among those who feel bad for illegal aliens and criminals, but I appreciate his efforts.
     
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    Curious. What court order did they deliberately disobey?
     
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    All the kings horses, and all the king's men, can't stop the butthurt..............but this can! Dr Trumps butt creme.jpg
     
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    Wow, thread over in 2nd post.

    Lmao!
     
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    One pertained to turning over the emails of Hillary Clinton. One pertained to restoration of the voting rights of convicted felons. One pertained to turning over documents in the fast and furious scandal.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good story. Too bad it is not true. Read the Jan report. It is a huge nothing. I hoped to learn what and who. I got misleading claims.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see racism in this light. I need to explain using the gun.

    I have a right to own and keep arms.

    So do you.

    Maybe you reject owning a gun. No problem for me at all. If you wish to be armed, I support you.

    Same with racism. I don't want or need racism running my life. But should you wish it to run your life, good and well. I won't like it, but support you in your thoughts.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In the 50s, I had no chance to be racist, if by that you mean blacks. I was chatting with Lee over the weekend as we were classmates in high school. I asked him if he knew blacks in his classes. He said he thinks he may have met one. I did not know we had blacks at high school until I saw my senior year book. I am not joking. He mentioned Kelly Hill to me and I later learned our local blacks lived on that hill. I lived 4 miles in the other direction though. I was a bit prejudiced vs the Mexicans we called Pachucos, though, due to them being ferocious gangsters and loaded with tattoos showing their gang. In a school of our size, even then there were not very many of them. Often their girls came to school with razor blades taped to hold the blade between two of their fingers. They could be vicious.

    But for me, I did not hang with blacks, did not know blacks and had no cause to think of them much at all. Honestly it was in 1962 and in the Army where I saw some blacks. I ran a platoon and can't recall blacks in my platoon. In AIT, I did have one black and he murdered a white boy from Utah.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pachuco

    Working as a Broker, I hired around 1994 a black as a loan agent. He was born in Nigeria. In my appraisal business, I hired a black from Kenya and he ripped me off ... long story but he messed me over for trusting him. I paid him his full fee in advance of the appraisal. And he never did the appraisals I paid him for.
     
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    I'll respond to both of you geniuses at once.

    McAuliffe did not violate the court order, as the Supreme Court of Virginia ruled (link here) when republicans moved to hold him in contempt. Let's start from the top. McAuliffe issued a blanket order saying that all ex felons can vote. The VA high court invalidated that order on the basis that the governor can only do that on a case-by-case basis. McAuliffe responded by doing that on a case-by-case basis. That is, he started issuing orders for every ex felon allowing them to vote. Republicans said this was a violation of the court order. The Supreme Court of Virginia disagreed. End of story. Perhaps if he did a little more research you wouldn't have bothered with this idiotic talking point.

    Regarding Obama and Holder, the Judge should have initiated contempt proceedings. Seems like that didn't happen.

    I don't see a link about clinton emails.
     
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    So you admit ex felons vote Democrat?
     
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    Headline says that Trump "destroyed" the reporter. That is a strange way to approach things - as if the reporter was debating something.

    He asked two questions:
    While Harvey was hitting Texas, you pardoned Arpaio - what was your thinking on that?
    What do you say to your critics - some in your own party - who say it (pardoning Arpaio) was the wrong thing to do?

    Those are just questions. They are the kind of questions that reporters ask every day. To see this as an adversarial relationship where an answer "destroys" the questioner is a symptom of Trump's incorrect narrative that the free press is his enemy.
     
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    The betrayal was from the court, not the sheriff.
     
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    "Thugged around"; "killing around"... overly casual expressions for what you are alleging. Your posing like this definitely achieves your obvious purpose of being annoying, which apparently serves to disguise the illogic or overly broad conclusions in many of your arguments.

    The lawsuits you speak of are the result of lawsuits brought by people that opposed following immigration law. The money paid goes directly to the elites in the form of attorney fees and judge stipends.

    Arpaio was doing exactly what his voters wanted, and Trump recognized this.
     
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    The prissy pantywaists attempting to contrive excuses for their unpopular messiah's dumping on law and order by giving old Pink Panties a pass seem incapable of grasping why so many Republican politicians, legal scholars, and conservative judges are appalled at his once again crapping on American values.

    Such arrogant "Big Government" intervention into local jurisdictions, even when it is not for blatantly hyper-partisan purposes, does not go over well with patriotic Americans.

     
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    Look at the pot calling the kettle arrogant with a blatantly hyper-partisan post! Pushing the name-calling aside, I agree that announcing it was not a good idea, but fully support the pardon. Many illegal aliens that cross into AZ don't stay there, making this more than a local issue.

    Im not a fan of Trump, but this pardon was the right thing to do.
     
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    100 people committed suicide in Arpaio's jail, which he described as a concentration camp. Not 1 or 2, but 100. He is guilty of murder,
    and should not have been pardoned. And yes, I am pissed off when certain people are pardoned, but this is beyond the pale.
    You Trump supporters can't possibly condone this action, done only because he supported Trump. Sad.
     
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    Arpaio's voters voted him out of office by 11 points.
     
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    And the dims paid millions for each one.
     
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    Suicides happen in all jails.

    And good, less criminals us taxpayers have to pay for.
     
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    Like I said before, Good!

    That means there are less illegal immigrant criminals us taxpayers have to pay for.
     
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    And I said that they may not have been criminals. This lowlife simply didn't like Mexicans, and maybe you don't either. He was ordered
    by a judge to cease and desist. He broke the law and should receive some jail time with Bubba. Did you ever break the law?
     
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    Did they spend time in the slammer?
     
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    In your mind he pardoned a patriot. In my mind he pardoned a criminal who flaunted the law. If he was upholding federal immigration laws, as you say,
    then he should have challenged the decision by the judge in a legal fashion, and not ignore her decision as he did.
     
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