Cerebus, this is my opinion / viewpoint of Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is going on over there has to do with two agendas: Item number one: Maintenance of an empire Item number two: making it safe for globalism. Someone has to ensure survival of the Dragon and I guess that those who run the show (psst. Establishment people of the DNRs, Wall Street financiers, Globalists) figure that by utilizing the U.S. military branches, support for the task will be strong and long-lasting.
Not in your case obviously since I already did, many of them. Denial and willful ignorance are a bitch.
I will go ahead and agree with you. To label anything that conflicts with the precious bubble you live in (that formed for you by years of ingesting state propaganda) "Leftist Conspiratorial thinking" is nothing but a clueless denial response. What is worse is that you do not back up your claim. What is also clueless is not realizing that the Left are just as involved in trampling on civil liberties an the right. If you think it is your "Patriotic Duty" to give up civil liberties over a risk of harm that is 400 times lower than the risk of harm from "Walking" ... you have a right to your opinion. Just don't go around calling your self a believer in republicanism, a Patriot, or someone that has any respect for the constitution or the founding principles.
Rounding up a bunch of innocent people and Torturing them ... and I am not talking about Gitmo. https://www.globalresearch.ca/dick-...inal-former-international-court-judge/5536019
Some people overlook the obvious. WWI, WWII, and Vietnam were the handy work of The Council on Foreign Relations and The Royal Institute of International Affairs. CFR was established in 1921 and the RIIA was established in 1660 (a long time for war making). There has been war for profit and control going on for quite some time, Centuries and eons, even. None of the people who are championed care about the lives of those outside of their circumference of “friends” and associates and the association span across religious, political, racial and demographic lines. These people only care about their current position(s) over everyone else. When I read and hear people making claims of the rightfulness of war, I just shake my head and think to myself, "Either they are ignorant, love war or are in love with the artificially current order on this planet." Either way, there are a growing number of people in this and other countries, who are tired of the insanity and evil routine. The growing power of government comes from warfare, especially nowadays and before long, we are going to be under complete and total control of these creatures; they are actual people but I refer to them as creatures because of their mental and behavioral characteristics. These people are actually at the root of all of the failures in human communications, wars, poverty and the like.
Denial of what? Indeed. Obama, like Bush, is just another shill of the corporate oligarchs. Do I have that right? Think you have me pegged wrong. I'm a libertarian who thinks libertarianism is doomed to never come into being.
No, no surprises there. But it was enjoyable watching Hilary tottering and being assisted into her vehicle again when she suffered that little episode...
Did you just wake up from a snooze begun in 1965? I was in Vietnam in 1970 and saw no such sentiment from the Vietnamese I knew. When and where were you there? Most of the Vietnamese I met rather resented the US presence in their country burning their villages and killing their people. I'm sure there were some exceptions, but I just can't remember them today.
We sure have a lot of Vietnamese here today. Half of my customers in the 1980's here in Dallas had the last name "Nguyen". When South Vietnam fell, many Vietnamese died trying to get out.
Yes that's true. If you are familiar with Garmin products, the "min" is taken from Minh, one of the names of one of the co-founders of that very successful company. I liked the Vietnamese individuals that I met, but I do not recalling a single one that was happy about our presence there. We were the round eye invaders, foreigners. If the shoe were on the other foot, I too would resent an army of occupation. Vietnam has done so well since we left that today we trade with them. Honest relations with all nations, entangling alliances with none is a good philosophy. Mutually beneficial trade between nations is far better than military aggression and war. It's not rocket science.
QUOTE="AlifQadr, post: 1068644640, member: 73100"]Some people overlook the obvious. WWI, WWII, and Vietnam were the handy work of The Council on Foreign Relations and The Royal Institute of International Affairs. [/QUOTE] Were Woodrow Wilson, Wilhelm II, Winston Churchill, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Harry Truman and Jack Kennedy all members of these groups? Perhaps a link should be submitted for whatever Skeptiks there might be.
The arms manufacturers need wars like a bee needs nectar, otherwise the government might start to ask awkward questions, such as why do we spend trillions on arms when there’s no one to fight.
Meanwhile, the rest of us have lost our guarantee of Habeas Corpus,live under constant coeporate state surveillance, and are available to the corporate state for capture and relocation to dark sites for extraordinary rendition, "legally". And of course as we have all seen, are subject to being gunned down in the streets, even whne unarmed, but the corporate state police.
We sure do bidness with them. Internationally illegal cluster bombs, known to have a 90% collateral casualty rate in the field, to the Wahabist Saudis too.
Any rational people wold respond in that manner. Phuggun' amerians. Can you imagine the snowflaky caterwauling if someone did here what we do all over the planet? We're so "exceptionally" narcissistic we think our occupations are welcomed by those we militarily occupy for the benefit of the Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class.
The people of South Vietnam (now Vietnam) are not as well off as the people of South Korea, where we stood firm against communism.