America the Pariah

I do not believe that it is that simple. What I believe and know is that all involved are culpable; those in government of both the deep state and the shadow government work out plans that benefit both. The politicians and many in the Pentagon, plus the ambassadors, and envoys plot to pick out the victim or target, and the shadow government such as the Central Intelligence Agency, the DIA and other the CFR, and Bilderberg Group manufacture and exaggerate "evidence" to gain the consent of the a significant portion of the population and then the games begin; all out warfare. It is an intricate plan and is executed not just for profit, but for the main reason which is control and the maintenance thereof.

 

Yeah, Saudi Arabia, some Muslims those evil creatures are. It is people like the "Royal" Junta of Saudi Arabia that cause so much earner disbelief of Islam and other religions that are supposed to represent how to live life without destroying innocents. The Saudi Junta is in bed with the British Royals, Israel and the rulers and owners of these United States; they are clearly NOT righteous people by any stretch of imagination.

 

Really? When was America last invaded? The truth is that by arming civilians Americans have killed more of their fellow Americans than their armed forces lost in all her wars. But you don’t acknowledge facts, fantasy is more entertaining.

 

Exactly.

Wrong analogy. Based on your first claim, the second part should really be:

The truth is American armed forces have massacred millions of innocent people and otherwise destroyed millions more lives all over the planet since the last time America was invaded.

It's actually you who won't acknowledge the relevant facts, diversion is more comfortable.

 

Sure...I'm not crazy about McDonald's or Kardashians either)...cola on occasion...I prefer sprite, orange crush, or 7 UP).

 

don't do it zoom... they're all evil lol

 

Yes...they all burn a hole through you,lol).

 

Don't you guys dropped more bombs in Vietnam than you did in WWII Germany?

You didn't lost that war because you had "one hand tied behind your back". You lost it because the Vietcong were more resilient and kicked your arses.

 

I am going to answer this poor fellow here.

From one of the links that had been thrown at you (absentia trial in Malaysia):

(...) At the end of the week-long hearing, the five-panel tribunal unanimously delivered guilty verdicts against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their key legal advisors who were all convicted as war criminals for torture and cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment.

I didn't include the link because, obviously, you don't use them.

 

Like oxygen to a fire, yes. A truth for any war.

Many of these groups, the Taliban, the Moudjahidins, Al-Qeada, and then ISIL, were at some point allies of the USA/Israel/Saudi alliance, and were armed by them to fight what the alliance thought were opponent regimes at the time, and chaos zones now.

 

Wrong analogy? I don’t make things up, that’s the American statistics and there from the gun deaths in America over the last 57 years. When is the only time the generals have a chance to prove their worth? You’ve guessed it, during a war. How many American deaths in the last five years has Daesh killed? 110. How many deaths are due to arming civilians in the last five years ? Over 150,000. I don’t know why they bother, you’re doing a better job by yourselves.

 

Man, that last line...

... Furthermore, that 110 number includes those who "turned ISIL" overnight, in an effort to give their folly a "cause". If we were in the 70s, it could have been the Red Brigades.

 

True

 

I didn't say you make things up or that the statistics you cited are incorrect. The point was that the US military industrial complex has murdered and otherwise destroyed millions of people worldwide during the period the US has not been invaded (1812 - present, over 2 centuries). That's the analogy that's really meaningful.

 

Five panel tribunal from what five countries?

 

Hanoi did not get it as bad as Dresden, Berlin, Hiroshima, or Nagasaki.

 

The post is not about civilians killing or murdering civilians, it is about the causes and purposes of war that you obviously support. Call what I post whatever pleases you, it will have no affect and effect on what I know, see, witness, and hear so carry on.

 

Bob, we all look the same. This was made because I think that scampi has confused what the two of you were discussing, with a post that I made that has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion betwixt yourself and scampi. Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk

 

It wasn't WWII division vs division affair - it was guerilla. Carpet bombing, already near useless in WWII, were just done for rapture's sake. That you fought badly, fought the wrong kind of war - I would give it to you. But you weren't restrained by any means. In fact you were so un-restrained that you committed war crimes. That's pretty extreme.

It isn't restrain that prevented you from using the atom bomb - it was the Soviets.

 

Why should it matter? It was an in-absentia trial, with limited application.

What interests us here is the theorical case, rather than the jury's composition. We perfectly know that these war criminals (Cheney etc) will never pay for what they have done. We're not stupid.

 

It matters because the source must be considered

 

The "source" (or rather the object) is the Malaysian justice system, and was reported by a variety of worldwide medias.

 

There ya go.

 

You wrote that as if you just demonstrated something.

 

All of our bombs must have missed because Hanoi was still standing.