The Democrats Problem With Gun Confiscation

They won't be able to seriously clamp down on our gun rights until we lose our white majority and the GOP stops being relevant in national elections. Right around the time when Texas goes blue which is expected to be around 2024 to 2030, if things stay the same, is when Democrats are going to be able to seriously start assaulting the 2nd A.

When States like Texas go Blue it's going to really settle into the consciousness of the right-wing that they no longer have political relevancy. Almost half the country will realize that they no longer have a voice in the country that their ancestors founded. They will become a people who realize they have nothing to lose. I worry that the Democrats will take their Newfound permanent power too far.

 

3% of America wants to confiscate guns. Everyone who knows you, Rise, certainly want to confiscate yours.

 

I think we should give everyone free guns, except you, you won't be allowed to have any. Everyone else, even the pedophiles and rapists, they get one. RiseAgainst will be the only unarmed person

 

I'm comfortable with the current demographics of gun ownership vs non-ownership

 

I don't have any guns. I sold them all for a gaming PC and to throw the rest of the cash into the stock market.

I don't actually need guns for self-defense. My smile and all-around lovable personality is enough. Nobody wants to hurt me.

I am speaking in this thread as an outside political Observer.

 

If what you are saying is true, then all you have confirmed is white people are the problem. White people are to blame for mass shootings. Good work. Of course they aren't, but the real problem here is you don't know what you're talking about.

Guns are largely nothing more than a hobby for Americans. Self-defense rarely happens. Hunting to survive is even more rare. The 2nd Amendment did NOT exist to protect a hobby. As far as using them to defend or stop government, that was also NOT the intent of the 2nd Amendment by anyone save perhaps a few radicals like Jefferson, and even he would not have allowed open insurrection during his presidency anymore than Washington did during his (whiskey rebellion, for example).

The real problem here isn't gun confiscation, it's the notion that guns are anything more than a consumer good for people's little hobbies. Once you accept that reality, you easily can find a way to pass laws that make sense and are effective. Banning isn't required.

 

I own guns and support the second amendment. But I see no reason to own an AR-15 or to permit them to be sold absent a much more extensive background check than what is required now, including psych testing, and mandatory training.

 

The Repubs problem with the notion Dems want to confiscate guns is it's a lie.

 

The big problem I have with the "we need more white people so that we can keep our gun rights" is that Europe is the place in the world with the most white people and it forbids guns.

 

If the transition to Blue in certain states (like Texas where I live) is inevitable, then those who decry attacks on the 2nd Amendment should recognize that they need to adjust tactics. Instead of moaning and gnashing of teeth, these folks should instead focus on the groups (minorities... gasp!) who are becoming a large slice of the population to convince such groups that what they have to offer is better than that of the left.

There seems to be this presupposed certainty that minorities can't be right leaning.

That is foolish.

If you expend the effort to get to know folks in the Latino culture, you can find plenty of overlap between right leaning values and Latino values. Things like pro-family, pro-life, pro-small business, etc. all resonate strongly. The issue with those on the right is not that their message cannot reach this people group... it's that their marketing sucks. The right needs to do a better job of rebranding itself away from redneck loonies and instead focus on commonalities.

If the right doesn't do that, then the left will win by virtue of the fact that it is marketing itself to these groups and, frankly, these groups tend to have larger families and outbreed everyone else. That means that in a few short generations, the left's voting bloc grows organically by substantial means.

 

ANY argument that begins with "We need more white people because..."

should be relegated to the racist basement

 

True as far as it goes...but it would require the right to stop making bigoted attacks on minorities and immigrants...and in the current climate that just doesn't seem possible so...

Pass DACA and get back to us...

 

That's why my position is that I want to end all immigration for at least 15 to 20 years and Institute policies that bring up the native white birth rate.

White Americans and especially white Americans who are descendants of the founding stock overwhelmingly support their second amendment rights.

 

My response to DACA is that if I lived with my family in a country like Mexico with its poverty and crime, I would do everything in my power, legal or illegal, to get my family to somewhere like the US in order to afford them a better life with more opportunities.

 

Sounds great. Pass DACA and get back to us.

Till then it's just words

 

I have zero influence on DACA nor do I particularly agree with or support the primary politicians arguing over it. Dismissing my comments by telling me to pass DACA is quite foolish and, ironically enough, 'just words.'

 

Anyone that thinks all gun would be turned in is totally stupid. Tell me again how criminals obey the law.

 

What does race have anything to do with guns and gun ownership? Not all Republicans are white. I’m sure there are some non-white Republicans who don’t want their guns confiscated, too.

 

Very few D's are for gun confiscation. At least in totality.

 

The "democrats want to take your guns" is a CON, just like the "we are fiscally responsible" CON, and the "we are the moral majority" CON.

It is absolutely impossible to confiscate over 300 million guns.

 

A hurricane hit the Caribbean a few years ago and on one island the natives flipped out and began rioting and looting

Because of the weather tourists on the island could not leave immediately

The liberal reporter on the scene revealed that all of the foreigners were congregated in just one hotel

Why?

Because that's where an American skeet team were staying with their shotguns and ammo

 

I am a 56 year old gun enthusiast and staunch defender of 2A. I am dad (an avid hunter, RIP), NRA Gun Safety Course, and military trained (almost nine years active duty). I own quite a few handguns, shotguns and rifles, including semi-automatic so-called "assault" rifles.

I think it's time to treat long-gun ownership like we treat cigarettes and booze, ie, can't legally buy until you're 21 years old.

I'm totally agreeable to that not only because it's consistent with child-protection laws we already have on the books, but it would represent a good-faith effort to reach across the aisle (and perhaps help reveal what the gun-grabbers are really made of)

 

No not all Republicans are white. I'm a republican who is Mexican. But I can do math.

 

No it’s not, they just can’t openly advocate for that right now because they don’t have the public on their side. They are hoping more non-white 3rd world growth within the country will change that.

 

No, it's not. They claim it's a lie; but you look at the pattern of their proposed legislation and banning and confiscation is present more and more often. Look at the mag ban in California, or the SAFE Act in NY.

Then, of course, there's Ms. Feinstein and her admission that if she could get the votes, "Mister and Missus America, turn 'em all in", she would do it.