Proof Republicans Want To Be Perceived As The While People's Party

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  1. precision

    precision Well-Known Member

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    Well there may be some Democrats that hate Muslims. There are surely some that don't particularly care for black folks.
     
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    Okay now I'm confused. You started a thread complaining that the Republican party is too White. So to solve this problem I try to bring you into the club to make it more diverse and you rejected me. It seems like white people are damned if they do and damned if they don't and they should just start pursuing their interests regardless of what anybody thinks.
     
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    I think the problem from my perspective is that there are some Republicans who feel that they can obtain some political advantage by having their party being perceived as the "white people's party." That is a problem as far as I am concerned.
     
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    What's good for white people is good for everyone. Nobody wants to live in a third world country.
     
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    yep the white christer party
     
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    It wasn't Republicans' nonsense. Democrats decided to be the party of race baiting in 2011 and to abandon their white working class base in favor of Hispanics who were needed to replace the African Americans they were putting out of work.

    The Future of the Obama Coalition
    By Thomas B. Edsall
    November 27, 2011 11:34 pm November 27, 2011 11:34 pm

    For decades, Democrats have suffered continuous and increasingly severe losses among white voters. But preparations by Democratic operatives for the 2012 election make it clear for the first time that the party will explicitly abandon the white working class.

    All pretense of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned in favor of cementing a center-left coalition made up, on the one hand, of voters who have gotten ahead on the basis of educational attainment — professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists — and a second, substantial constituency of lower-income voters who are disproportionately African-American and Hispanic.

    It is instructive to trace the evolution of a political strategy based on securing this coalition in the writings and comments, over time, of such Democratic analysts as Stanley Greenberg and Ruy Teixeira. Both men were initially determined to win back the white working-class majority, but both currently advocate a revised Democratic alliance in which whites without college degrees are effectively replaced by well-educated socially liberal whites in alliance with the growing ranks of less affluent minority voters, especially Hispanics.

    https://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/27/the-future-of-the-obama-coalition/?_r=0

    This was the identity politics play made by the Democrats. Republicans had nothing to do with your disgusting antics.
     
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    Can you name me one group in America that doesn't have it's own interests first? Why is it ok for Muslims to have their own interests first? Why do blacks have a whole month dedicated to one black man, have their own caucus in Congress, have a group called the NAACP (NATIONAL association for the advancement of colored people) ? Why do cities n America call themselves Sanctuary Cities for the protection of prosecution of illegal aliens? Every group in America has clubs exclusive to their ethnic culture. I guess you think it is OK for everyone else to practice discrimination but not for whites. The only people I have ever heard that the Republican Party was for white is the Democrats and their herd of brainless reporters on TV. I voted for Trump and I also voted for Obama and even supported Harry Browne many years ago. One of my all time favorite books was by him. "How I Found Freedom in a Unfree World".
     
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    You are right, it actually started before clinton, but he really made their intent obvious. And yes, it is all working people they stopped representing. I mentioned that in another response to you. They divided these different groups of working people up and pitted one group or two groups against the other. This allowed them to represent none of them economically, and it was very clever and worked. But as people come awake, you see sanders supporters and trump supporters.

    The GOP has not represented their working people voters either, but that is what old FDR people like myself already knew. Their working voters did not know, apparently, or were kept misdirected by social issues so as not to notice. But they began to wake up to and that is what trump did as well as he did.
     
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    Then why did you bring up workers?

    Seems like you are scrambling from the trap I have laid for you.

    And you know its coming lol.
     
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    Your premise is absurd.
     
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    The entire thread is basically a giant fallacy. The OP is literally saying "look at that map, a lot of white people vote Republican, therefore the Republican party wants to be the white people's party". It makes no sense whatsoever. How does the free choice of voters prove anything about the party?

    As for why so many white people vote Republican, it's obvious : the Democrat party right now is an anti-white communist hate group. It wasn't the case 20 years ago, but now it is.

    If you have a problem with the Republican party being the white people's party, then blame the Democrats, they're the only ones responsible for making it like this. They've permanently alienated whites and have only themselves to blame.
     
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    Yes. The identity politics of the left places the welfare of illegal aliens above that of US citizens.
     
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    Like I said before, this is why I like you. Actually there are likely many Republicans that think what you just said, but they will not say it openly. The difference between you and them is that you will openly state what you think. I would put forward the notion that the behavior of Republicans in general, can be understood if we assume that they think in this way. As an example, consider the invasion of Iraq by Dick Cheney. I recall getting into a discussion with a person who repeated the notion that we would be greeted as liberators. My reply was that this notion is foolishness and that the invasion would be a great mistake. If we assume, that Dick Cheney thinks as you do, we can see why they would fall for such a ridiculous notion. I am not saying that you necessarily supported the invasion of Iraq. However, I am saying that a person who believed that what is good for white people, especially rich white people like Dick Cheney, is good for everyone would be duped into believing in such foolishness.

    If we consider the various types of policy positions put forward by Republicans in light of this assumption, we can understand why they come up with such foolish ideas as this.
     
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    Racist much? What's wrong with "white people"?
     
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    I agree with what you have put forward here. I would just add that keeping the masses divided and pitting them against one another is an old tactic. Not only Democrats, but Republicans have used this tactic as well.
     
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    White people hate Muslims... Interesting...
     
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    No. Your post is based on the fallacy that it is the map alone that demonstrates the notion that Republicans want to be perceived as the white people's party.

    The point is that presenting a map of a poll high school voters where white students vote Republicans as evidence that the Democrats are evolving into the party of blacks and Hispanics indicates that the person would like for others to believe that the Democratic party is the party of blacks and Hispanics, and the Republican party is the "white people's party."
     
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    You brought up that I had mentioned starting a political party. That was in another thread that was titled "workers, blacks and Hispanics should start their own political party." I did not talk about starting a political party in this thread until YOU brought it up.

    Please! :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Democrats. racial and/or gender victimhood politics all day, every day.

    stale as ten day old bread, but it is literally all they have....it is the very foundation of their politics. they have no where else to go.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with white people that isn't wrong with everyone else.
     
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    And I would say that the characterization that you put forward is the foundation of Republican politics, it is stale as ten day old bread, and that they have no where else to go.
     
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    Can you link to that thread? I'm pretty sure it's something by Brewskier or someone who doesn't represent the Republican party in any way.

    I think that's the misunderstanding here.
     
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    I should clarify that obviously not all Republicans think that way. However, it is my contention that there is a substantial strain of this type of thinking going on among Republicans.

    Here's the link to the post in question.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...political-party.526788/page-7#post-1068736526

    The point is that here the poster would have one believe that the graphic illustration demonstrates that the Democratic party is becoming the party of blacks and Hispanics, and that the Republican party is the party of whites.
     
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    Okay. But he's just telling a verifiable fact here. More than 90% of blacks vote Democrat, more than 75% of Hispanics vote Democrat, and 58% of whites voted Trump.

    But again, you're assuming this division by race exists because of something that the Republican party did, and this is dead wrong. It exists because of something that the Democrat party did.
     
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    Why is being the white people party a bad thing?
     

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