Best Sensitive, Caring New Social Program To Help World's Middle And Low Class:

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  1. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    You compare Orwell's attack on dictatorship with Hitler vs Stalin? Are you serious?
     
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    so what??? there are many kinds of socialists fabians would kill just as many over time and the seemingly benign ones are simply ways to get their food in the door. Hillary is probably a communist just like Sanders. In the end you have the IQ to understand how freedom works or you don't
     
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    You're ranting! I suppose you could mention Orwell fought the fascists in Spain. With your rhetoric you'd call him a terrorist today...
     
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    I always find it interesting how each of you rebuttals are short, none explanatory, none sourced and accusative, all are great qualities of great a mind wouldn't you say? You are a very arrogant person.
     
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    you were droning on and on about monopolies being your great discovery about capitalism not knowing that our govt has had an anti trust department for 100 years whose existence nobody is challenging. Do you have a meaningful criticism of capitalism? Do you prefer socialism even though it slowly killed 120 million?
     
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    yes he fought the fascists to replace them with "liberal fascists".[ why not read book by that name] Don't you get it yet? Every stateist thinks his statests are for the people!! Our Founders made all stateism illegal and thus built the greatest country in human history by
    far.

    You want to know what Fascism is? It is like your New Deal."
    -- Mussolini, during a visit to New York City

    -W.E.B DuBois: (the most important black leader in the first half of the 20th Century) "Joseph Stalin was a great man; few other men of the 20th Century approach his stature. The formation of the Nazi dictatorship was absolutely necessary to get the state in order." In 1937 he proclaimed: "there is today more democracy in Germany than there has been in years past." (page 10)

    -Guy Tugwell: (FDR Brain Trust) said of fascism: "It's the cleanest, neatest piece...of social machinery I've ever seen." ( page 11)
     
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    The New Deal continued conservatism and failed to embrace Keynesianism. Your communism = liberalism = fascism continues to be nonsensical.
     
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    Everyone gets taxed. Are you against that?
     
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    people at very top should not get taxed since their contribution to society is so enormous. image the pure liberal ignorance of taxing a company inventing cancer drugs??
     
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    you’re in elementary school and have got your definitions totally wrong. back to kindergarten once again
     
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    I'm sure the economics involved is beyond you...
     
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    I believe that tax policy should be based on maximizing middle class incomes. Subjective reasons like "contribution to society" are utterly irrelevant to me because there are no real-world results.
     
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    actually curing cancer is a real world result!! Image the liberal stupidity in taxing someone trying to cure cancer?
     
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    you’re in elementary school and have got your definitions totally wrong. Why so afraid to learn American English so you can talk with us?
     
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    If all the money is in the hands of the wealthy and wages are stagnant we won't be able to afford these cancer cures that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars per person and are only rising making a lot of rich people even richer. Whats the point of being alive if you are broke?
     
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    When you say, "Best Sensitive, Caring New Social Program To Help World's Middle And Low Class", it seems you mean robbing Peter to pay Paul. I'm not a robber, so I don't wish to participate in your plan to rob people.
     
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    Is far far far far better for the money to be in the hands of those who are trying to cure cancer than being taxed a way to be utterly wasted by fool liberal communist bureaucrats
     
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    Republican capitalism is not robbing people But rather is providing them with the most caring social program ever devised by mankind
     
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    I believe that the vast majority of businesses should have zero taxes and business taxes should be rolled into the personal income tax. So businesses that are curing cancer will go tax free. But I do believe that wealthy people should pay their fair share like everyone else.
     
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    You don't realise that conservatism is also an economic term? That's depressing!
     
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    Well i would imagine if a company is trying to cure cancer then they are doing a lot of Research and Experimentation. Which {cough cough} the government doesn't tax thanks to the R&E tax credit which was made permanent in 2015. Imagine the stupidity of someone who is so far down the rabbit whole of his own ass, they would make such a bold claim with out looking it up. Now Do You Understand?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_&_Experimentation_Tax_Credit

    Sorry if wikipedia is to Liberal Nazi Communist of a source for you, i'm sure IRS.gov probably has the same info, but who would trust the government.
     
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    you said business taxes should be rolled into personal taxes. this too would tax the guy or company that is working on a cancer cure when in reality we want to encourage him not discourage him. Do you understand?
     
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    why is the liberal so afraid to tell us exactly what the bold claim was?
     
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    conservatism has many current and past definitions. So??????????????????? Wm Buckley Jr. defined the most current and common use of the word to be, in short, "against govt," and liberal to be, in short, for govt. Now to you get it?
     
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    The people who actually determine the cure aren't the rich executives, they are the people in the middle class working on the cure and making the decisions about what direction to point their research. All business money will be free of taxation and free to spend on cancer research without impediment. Those rich and middle class people working on the cure will be taxed because we need money for the government to run and trying to pick and choose whose job is important enough to by tax free would create an extremely complex tax system.

    Taxing individuals doesn't hurt cancer research because the business money itself funding the research isn't decreased at all. Rich executives and middle class scientists will earn somewhat less but it will be far more than the average person is earning and will make them a lot richer so they won't have any less incentive. If anything they will have more of an incentive because they will have to work more to get the same amount of money because of taxes.
     

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