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  1. Tofiks

    Tofiks Banned

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    So Russia state TV are producing the fake news about Western decadence, but it does not mean anything? Why did they do so?

    Of course of course, there are fakes, but you will not show them, because you dint have a time.

    Followers? Why they are followers? And Latvian government allowed the "parades" of Red army veterans too. So we can talk about Latvian Stalinist government in this case? And after all, can you explain a legal reason, why government can ban this kind of actions?
     
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    The news that reported by you as a faked one about western decadence are not far from truth:

    Council of Europe issued a recommendation for EU member states to exclude words “mother” and "father" from the official documents as a manifestation of sexism.
    Followers of Nazism. In this way they support what was done by Nazi Germany in WW2. If Nazism is not forbidden in Latvia so that the government can not stop SS parades, that only says about the type of the government Latvia has. If they try to organize such a thing in Germany, they would finish up in prison.
     
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    You talk as such thing never happen in western media.





     
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    MrFirst Banned Past Donor

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    Immortal Regiment march in Kiev:

     
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    MrFirst Banned Past Donor

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    Odessa:


    Kishinev, Moldova:


    Donetsk:


    Almaty, Kazakhstan:


    Yerevan, Armenia:
     
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    MrFirst Banned Past Donor

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    Something is banned when it offends others, and since the Latvians weren't offended with the parade of the Nazi veterans, means many Latvians have racial and ethnic supremacist attitudes. As for those that fought with the Soviets, they were fighting against German Nazi aggression and brutality, and that had nothing to do with Stalin or the political system. Big difference!
     
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    Thanks Jeannette, good explanation.
     
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    And yet the prohibition of Nazi sympathies in Germany has done little to crush the thirst of those who embrace such philosophies...they may be unable to demonstrate their support for Nazism, but the causes that create their beliefs are still present!
     
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    Maybe its sounds strange for victim of the Russia brain wash machine, but something can be banned only if it's aginst the law. This can be the only reason in state of law.

    At second, no one can be offended with the parade of the Nazi veterans, because there is no parades of nazi veterans.

    Yes of course, all who fight on german side was hardcore nazi, but those who fight on soviet side has nothing common with Stalin regime. "Strong" logic behind this...:D
     
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    In general - yes. German side was bad, Soviet side was good. That's right.
     
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    Nothing like this are happening in western media, it even can't happen, because western media is not controled by one political force, as it is in Russia. There are no hate speeches against whole states and nations in western media, there is no brutal brainwash. As i said again, i can compare, i spoke russian and english.
     
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    Yeh, and the world is black and white only. Simple, understandable, dont neet much to think, just for the russia brainwashed TV auditory.
     
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    Oh, you found another video, where Russia TV brainwashed their auditory about western decadence? Great...

    Wich actions in this "parade" support what was done by Germany in WW2? Or you dont know?
     
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    No hate speeches?
    But what about Skripals' case, for example? All British media, including the so-called "public" TV channel BBC, have thrown tons of mud at Russia. Putin, Russia, Putin, Russia... Putin poisoned Skripals and so on. And what now? Where are Skripals? Where is investigation? Where are any suspected ones? Where is anything???????????
     
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    Any war usually is black and white. Maybe you think we have any reasons to paint German invaders with gray or not-so-black color? I don't think so.
     
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    They told, that they will take Moscow with tanks in several days, called Russia fascist state, tells stories about russian solders who raped epileptic grandmothers and blowing constriction foam in intime places of the little girls? This kind of stories has been told in Russian TV on prime time. Does something like this happens in Britain TV? I don't think so...
     
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    Did you come from the moon? This parade of SS veterans and their followers aims to present them as heroes and advertisement of Nazi ideas. Are you also a Nazi supporter as you defend them? As for video, it contains interviews not with Russians but with Lithuanians and other Europeans.
     
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    You are a lier, there are no hate speeches against whole other nations in Russian TV media. The fact that you speak not only English, but also Russian does not add you a credibility.
     
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    It's pretty sad, watching Russians try to claim that the poor Ukrainians are Nazis. But that's the lie they use to justify these gross violations of Ukrainian sovereignty, and of course conservatives in Russia are gullible enough to eat that right up. Every country has its low-IQ conservative segment, doesn't it?
     
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    Ukraine Suspends Consul in Germany for Alleged Anti-Semitic Posts

    KIEV — A Ukrainian diplomat in Germany has been suspended and could be recalled, Ukraine's foreign ministry said on Monday, following reports the consul had posted anti-Semitic content on social media.

    Screenshots shared online claim to show Vasyl Marushchynets, who works at Ukraine's consulate in Hamburg, blaming Jews for World War II and saying "death to the anti-fascists" on his private Facebook page.

    "Anti-semitism and those who stir up inter-ethnic discord can have no place either in civilized society or in the foreign ministry," Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavlo Klimkin said on Twitter.

    Asked what action the foreign ministry had taken in response to the reports about Marushchynets, ministry spokeswoman Mariana Betsa said a consul had been suspended.

    "The question of recalling him is being considered," she said by telephone without referring to anyone by name.

    https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/05/14/world/europe/14reuters-ukraine-germany-consul.html
     
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    We are not talking about Ukranians. Is your IQ not allow you to understand that?
     
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    Why would the Ukrainians suspend him for saying that if they're Nazis? Wouldn't they be applauding him instead?
     
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    Because it has happened in European country. Germany is strongly intolerant to Nazis.
    And Ukrainian FM suspended this guy only after the opposition journalist revealed the story in Europe.
     
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