Navarro: ‘Special place in hell’ for Trudeau …..

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  1. Russ103

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    That’s interesting, how you think that all women are the same monolithic group who benifit/suffer the same.
     
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    Yes the Demo Navarro is tossing a Temper Tantrum. Exactly, what is new about a Demo tossing a temper tantrum? At least he didn't go out and scream at the sky and look for some pet therapy.

    Sounds like he is saying that about Trudeau for being dishonest. Of course you know how the left likes to toss out that diss. At least until they run across one that plays that game better than they do.
     
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    MissingMayor said:
    You may be surprised to hear this, but people who aren't on Team Trump aren't some monolithic group. I know that might be confusing given the clone wars immitation you guys have going on.


    :lol:
     
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    After observing him in action sitting at a negotiating table (that daca meeting was very telling among others), seeing how he hires and fires, see how bullying and ad hom with his personnel is SOP, how he erratically changes his mind often within the same conversation, his utter lack of empathy or at least understanding, his ultra thin skin, his juvenile petulance. This man would be thrown out on his arse if he ran a large corporation. He sure as hell doesnt' inspire greatness. He can run his family business just fine but the qualities of leadership that create great leaders are lacking almost across the board.
    But perhaps the most egregious flaw is his imperial "do as I say,not as I do" attitude with everyone. He flaunts ethic rules and federal law with a seeming impunity that no other president has ever had, aided and abetted by a bunch of republican cowards only concerned with retaining their power at the expense of America.

    Friggin pathetic state of affairs.
     
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    Stop trying to defend the indefensible. It is irrational to conclude that he ever studied the voluminous History of tarrifs. Had he looked at just this one example I give, he would not be in such a hurry to slam the breaks on our economy.

    What happened when we last put tarrifs in Japan? What took place at our ports? What happened to the USDJPY? What happened to the EURJPY and then the EURUSD as a direct result? What did that currency relationship force the Fed to do with long term interest rates? And, what net/net effect did these entanglements have on CPI here in the US?

    This kind of research has a name. I do this kind of research in my own business. Smart business leaders and CEOs need this kind of research provided to them, so they can make wise strategic business decisions. It is called Impact Analysis. It is clearly something that Donald Trump, has learned to avoid like the plague. Again, Donald Trump, is a Reactionary with no vision the does not extend beyond himself. He lacks the fundamental quality you need in an effective Leader: Selflessness.


    I was reared by my Parents to always stop and think things through to their most logical conclusion. I was taught how to do this at a very young age. That’s why I can easily recognize someone who has not thought things to their most probable extent.

    Listen to what you just said. Stop and think about what you just wrote. I’m not going to answer this question for you, because I don’t want to do your thinking for you. The answer should be obvious for anyone knowing anything about Macro Economic Theory. Answer the question yourself and think things through to their most logical conclusion before your reply again:

    The US now has a national debt approaching $21 Trillion. 2018 GDP is $20.4 Trillion. Projected 2022 GDP is $23.7 Trillion. By comparison, China’s GDP is now $10.5 Trillion and is now the second largest economy worldwide. Donald Trump, wants to extract tarriffs from countries that are within the top 10 largest trading partners of the US. Current US trade deficit is now $46 Billion. We took in Imports of $2.8 Trillion and we exported $2.5 Trillion in 2017. Over $1 Trillion US long and short term debt is held by a majority of the countries Trump want to tarrif.

    Now, you answer your own question based on those economic facts. Where is the Compensation Balance Leverage that Donald Trump will need in order to demand such across the board tarrifs? Don’t you see the massive GLARING problem with this data and Trump’s notion that he’s going to close the trade deficit using tarrifs! It should very obvious. Close the trade deficit at what cost? What do you think will happen to Tic Flows (both equities and treasuries) over time and how will that singular problem impact our broader economy? And, that’s just one problem that Trump has not thought through to its logical conclusion.

    Leading a nation this complex is not something for narrow minds like Trump’s. You need a bigger brain than what Trump brings to the table and that was the biggest mistake his supporters made. You are setting yourselves up to destroy our economy with some really long term structural damage.

    The Trade Defict, right now, is not our biggest concern. Contrary to brainwashing opinion, it is the broken Infrastructure of our Paper Tiger Economy that should be our biggest concern right now. The trade deficit wouldn’t easily self-correct, if we developed a new core economic engine built upon a strong foundation of New Energy Technologies that we PATENT and then EXPORT around he world.

    Did you get that? That entails getting back to basics in the all important area of Innovation. It is what I’ve been calling for on this board for years now. That is how you grow our economy, create a trade surplus, drive foreign capital investments through the roof, fund the government, rebuild our broken infrastructure, kill the national debt, create deep negative unemployment, attract highly talented immigration and build a recession proof economy.

    This is leadership and we don’t see this kind of long range strategic thought process coming out of Trump. He’s too busy trying to look good, rather than actually be good.

    We can talk about precisely how to build that kind of recession proof economic engine, if you want. This debt laden society of ours is on the brink of long term disaster because it is founded upon Paper and not Infrastructure.
     
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    Yes, agreed. The pathology of denial is indeed a very sad affliction. It promotes a distorted world view, entrenched arrogance, delusional over estimation of self and most lethally a Reprobate mind not having the capacity know the distinction between right and wrong.
     
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    A perfect description of TDS.
     
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    Well, understood. Thank you. However, I rather enjoy exposing their hallucinatory position on someone clearly too incompetent for the White House.

    There’s no victory in delusion, only deeper echelons of delusion and denial.
     
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    And guess what? Canada has a lower average tariff rate than the US. As do Germany, Japan, UK, Italy and France. REmind me again of who is in theG'7?

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/TM.TAX.MRCH.SM.AR.ZS

    So yes, trump is trying to screw over Canadians with his transactional approach and cherry picking.

    As for Canadian's shopping in the US, that has been a long tradition depending on the exchange rate. And vice versa for americans, considering 14 million individual Americans visited last year. There has always been a debate amongst Canadians about the "drain" this phenomenon has on our economy. And guess what? Nothing but talk, no action because in reality there ain't nothing that can be done to stop it and still retain political power.
     
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    Yeah, after 30 decades of confronting radical racist right wing fringers, I don't understand much about the right. I understand "republicanism" and "conservatism" well enough to know that Trump and an enormous chunk of his base sure as hell ain't either.
     
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    I bet you have no clue who he was referencing and what they stood for. I'd say the man has a pretty damn good handle on how he built his personal philosophy. I'd be willing to bet your's was not derived from intellectual pursuit.
     
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    Until you wake up from that delusional crisis of perception you now willingly inhabit, you won’t have a solitary clue about what Douglass stood for, nor the History behind the man to whom you would never amass enough integrity to even warrant being worthy of cleaning his shoes. Now, show me any Slave owner during Douglass’ time with one nanometers worth of integrity and moral compass and I’ll eat my hat right here on this forum.

    Your ill-contempt of that which is moral stretches far beyond mere arrogance and reaches the heights of abject loathsome moral insanity. Cop a plea, while you still can.

    Both Harriet Tubman and Nat Turner, get my perpetual vote. There should have far more Nat Turners. We would not be having this little chat had there been.

    My apologies. I forgot to toss in a dose of Nat Turner, in my personal character portrait above. One man I would love to go back in time to meet. No question about it. If he was more patient (which for him as a Slave was asking a lot) and more strategic (working with Aboriginals), he could have single handily altered the course of America. There would have been no Period of Jim Crow, no need for multiple Civil Rights Struggles, no police officers shooting Unarmed Black People in the streets, no Redlining, no need for Affirmative Action, no Marches On Washington and no Fake Presidential Candidates like Donald Trump.

    If only there had been more like Nat.
     
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    Bingo! You beat me to the real point about Trump. Your hit the nail squarely on the head. His supporters tout his alleged successful business record, that he’s some kind of effective business leader. However, you are absolutely right.

    In a real Publicly Traded Corporation of note, the Board of Directors would have bounced this man’s head off the sidewalk without a Golden Parachute a very long time ago - and that’s IF he was able to convince that board that he was worthy of the position of CEO in the first place.
     
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    Thomas Jefferson?
     
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    I would be happy that I taught a Trumpkin a new word, if only you used it correctly.
     
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    Another one who needs to recheck the definition of the word "monolithic" and understand that it needs to apply to the thoughts and actions of a group of people.
     
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    An even better description of some of the attributes embedded in Trump and his Trumpets. He strikes me as a Covert Narcissist and his followers as willing Enablers of that Narcissim.

    Indeed, a sad state of the union, no doubt. However, proof positive that bigotry and idiocy are alive and well in millions of so-called “Americans.” Trumpets should drop the ficticious label “Americans” and simply wear the shoe that fits: “Hypocrits.”

    I feel a new word coming on..... wait for it.....: “Pathologicals.”

    I just created a new Noun. I used the Greek meaning of “pathos” and simply connected it to the suffix that makes the word a useful descriptive Noun. From the Greek extraction “pathos” which denotes “suffering,” I surmise that Donald Trump, and by logical extension his Willing Enablers, do indeed now “suffer.” That which they suffer, I further surmise is Pathological in expression. Thus, my new word for the day, “Pathologicals” will be one that I save to my dictionary indicating a close and unusually abhorrent connection and affinity for that which Donald Trump, now suffers, Obsessive- Compulsive Disorder (OCD).

    Donald Trump, embodies a vast array of deep and complex Pathologies, and he’s mastered “the art” of masking them in topological and superficial social skills that only his Willing Enablers are incapable of decoding.

    Your move old friend.
     
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    I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with a person teaching me new words who uses words like Trumpkin.
     
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    Obama was the definition of narcissist but bet you didn’t complain then.
     
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    Obviously you decoded them also or you wouldn't know they exist.

    What does that make you?
     
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    What is the word for a person that hates simply to hate?

    I didn't like Obama's policies but I didn't hate him and will even admit he did some good things.

    Do you think the lefties in this thread could ever admit that about Trump?
     
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    No. I was also against Obama’s policies so I was called a racist. Haters will hate.
     
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    As was I.

    Now because we support Trump we are now Nazi's.

    It just continues non-stop with them.

    If you don't like Trump for some policy or action then that's fine.

    Be adult and state your case and I will respect your view but they have to go around using funny words, talking about him being orange or tiny hands, and labeling all of his followers as something out of a cult movie.

    Its just hate.
     
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    He wasn't anything close to that. The definition:
    And keep in mind, Trump almost definitely has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which is a real issue.
     
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