Full text: The statement signed by Trump and Kim

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He does.

    Pretty sure Shep is the Fox News leaker, an Obama holdover.
     
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    Thanks for the laugh.
     
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    From the us side. Nk got the meeting and some concessions . Nk wanted 5his from the last few presidents and trump gave it to them for nothing in rerurn. Well thats not true he can spin it for internal us.politics.
     
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    Get used to being wrong, it's all the left has had for the last two years.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    However, if things go according to plan, this historical event will be too difficult to ignore.

    The only way the Nobel leftists could some save face is to nominate Mike Pompeo.
     
  6. Moriah

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    I didn't read anything about Kim Jung Un giving up his nukes. Am I missing something?
     
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    You're not missing anything. It ain't in there.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's here -> Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
     
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    That's too vague to mean much of anything. It should read North Korea commits to giving up all it's nuclear weapons and delivery systems on December 31 2018 or some near date certain and it doesn't say that.
     
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    I think this Singapore meeting was nothing but political theatre.
     
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    I think you're right. Trump would have done well to stay away.
     
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    OK. That doesn't sound like anything firm.
     
  13. Moriah

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    Thank you. Without a deadline this agreement means nothing.
     
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    Yep, its a nothing burger
     
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    It means the framework, and parameters for future negotiations have been agreed upon. Denuclearization has been defined, and Kim indicates that nuclear disarmament is an acceptable outcome. In the interim, provacative test launches are suspended, and redundant mock invasions of the Korean peninsula we already occupy, will cease. Kim has executed an abrupt about face, and Trump deserves to be credited for his unwaivering commitment to brokering a peaceful resolution to N Korean tensions.
     
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    It's not a failure it is mediocre, its what any other president would have done, and it is exactly what Trump criticizes his predecessor's for doing. Remember the Iran deal Trump criticized, at least that deal actually forced Iran to give up weapons grade material. I hope it does lead to peace that would be great but you can't praise Trump for appearing peaceful when we was the person stocking the fire in the first place. It is one of the oldest tricks in the book.
    1. Cause a problem he didn't have to cause
    2. say only he is the one that can fix the problem
    3. Say he fixed the problem and reap praise's
    What Trump agreed to was nothing more than a pinky promise, nothing hard set, nothing tangible, nothing verifiable.
     
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    It was the first meeting.

    It took Obama seven years of communication and meetings to get a deal with Iran and you are calling Trump a failure because nothing happened the first time?

    And where did Trump say he fixed the problem?

    All I heard him say is that they are negotiating.

    And Trump didn't stock any fire, since you don't know this, NK has been talking this nonsense for a very long time, Trump was just the first one that stood up to them.
     
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    You expected everything to change in less than 24 hours after one meeting? You have a great deal of unrealistic faith in Donald Trump/
     
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    Oh I'm sure Obama could have gotten Kim to surrender himself to the International Court in Hague to stand trial for crimes against humanity, had been given another 24 hrs. on top of his 2 consecutive terms.:roll: Obama accomplished nothing, just like his predecessors accomplished nothing. Trump inherited an enormous task, and he's risen to the challenge.
    Liberals trying to set lofty goals for #notmypresident ... seriously? :roflol:
     
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    We will see.
     
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    So far the only country to make a concession to the other is the USA cancelling our war games??
     
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    You have seen. The text is provided. These are the sentiments the 2 leaders expressed. The initial "meeting of the minds" was successful. Kim and Trump both agree on that.
     
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    Do you feel they are worth the expense? If Kim makes any further threats it's likely that the President can respond quite quickly.
     
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    I believe it's all political theatre. There are no specifics in the statement. No deadlines. Nothing. :disbelief:
     
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    What were you expecting?

    Almost everyone understand this is just the beginning and an agreement outlining the goals was signed by both parties. Later the State Department will work out the finer details, along with their NoKo counterparts, and it may all take a couple of years.
     

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