Full text: The statement signed by Trump and Kim

You might be correct. Then Trump will void the deal.

 

Lastly i would like to point out one very, very ,very big flaw in your and Trumps plan. You claim a financial savings benefit if we pull troops from Korea. That is actually wrong, it will end up costing the US more. Think about it, if we bring all 25,000 or so military personnel home it not like they are all getting fired, its not like a plant closure were everyone lose's there job and is out on there ass. They are going to resign and redeploy all of those troops to other base's. Which means they still have to pay there salaries, plus moving expenses, plus shipping equipment back home, plus we lose the 30% or so Korea does pay the US. Not to mention it is cheaper to house and feed solders in Korea because there standard of living costs are lower than the US.

 

If we don't need troops there we could reduce our overall number of troops.

While they may not get fired we would have to hire less in the future.

You are also forgetting some things.

The cost of maintaining that large force that far away.

SK does not pay for them, we do. While they may contribute a small percentage we pay for the bulk of it. We pay our maintenance costs, we pay to keep them supplied we pay for shipping things over to them. Shipping them back home is a one time fee, maintaining a constant rotation of personal, equipment, and supplies is ongoing. I would address your other points but there are simply too many of them and that would make too long of a post.

 

No the markets when down due to Trump's sabre rattling. And you obviously are ducking the fact that Trump got nothing in his negotiation while Kim got an end to the war games and a serious upgrade in status on the workd stage.

 

Seems like just the other day the left was chastising Trump for having the war games. Why yes it was.

"But with tensions so high on the peninsula, some analysts say that rigid thinking could lead to miscommunication or military escalation.

The worry, analysts say, is that if the exercises proceed as usual — and if the United States decides to add other maneuvers like flying B-1B bombers over the Korean Peninsula or bringing aircraft carriers into nearby waters — the North may revive its plan to launch missiles near Guam or conduct some other act of aggression.

“I simply want somebody to help cool the temperature,” said Katharine H.S. Moon, a professor of political science and Asian studies at Wellesley College, “to buy time for the U.S. and North Korea to cool off and eventually figure out how to talk, what to talk about, when to talk about it and for what end.”

Even if the two sides could agree to some kind of temporary suspension of the exercises to open the way to talks, said Lee Jong-won, professor of East Asian international relations at Waseda University in Tokyo, “that will be only the beginning of very long and tough negotiations, because the positions of the two are very far apart.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/world/asia/north-korea-us-war-games.html[/QUOTE]
Glad to see you agree Trump got nothing.

 

Noted that you canmot argue that Trump didn't cave. But got to admit your claim that leftists are tolatarians has achieved an entirely new level of Conservative fantasy.

 

That is about as low a bar for honesty as can be imagined.

 

Why do you think that, now that NK is posing no threat? None of my business how your tax dollars are spent, but don't forget your national debt - which must be running at about $22tr by now?

 

Lil Kim started the process when he closed down his nuke site. Then suspended his ballistic missile testing. Then gave up 3 hostages. Wherein Trump gave up nothing. Then during this summit gave up remains and reparations. Adding to what he already gave up.

Oh and you need to go back and look at Markets when Lil Kim tested his Nuke and or shot a Ballistic Missile over Japan. Each time he shot a Ballistic missile over or near Japan!

 

Glad to see you agree Trump got nothing.[/QUOTE]
For one Trump got US soldier remains returned home. That was a huge deal when North Vietnam did so but now it's glossed over by the left.

 

Yesterday on the Drudge, it linked to a UK news rag that credited Ivanaka Trump for setting up the Trump/Kim summit during the Winter Olympics..

 

And that is germain to the current discussion exactly how?

 

Like I said Trump got nothing from the negotiations or do you not understand the difference between before and during the negotiations.

 

Tell us how remains of US troops and reparations are nothing.

 

They have no relevance to nuclear disarmement of North Korea whatsoever which was the purpose of the meeting. And you are obviously confused since the agreement mentions repatriation not reparations.

 

How disingenuous.....Even Lil Kim used returning hostages to open negotiations. Even though they have no relevance to nuclear disarmament.

Well Lil Kim paying for the remains to be delivered wherever is a form of reparation.



rep·a·ra·tion

the making of amends for a wrong one has done, by paying money to or otherwise helping those who have been wronged.

(reparations)
the compensation for war damage paid by a defeated state.

From Oxford Dictionaries · Cortana · Bing Translator


You tried.....you really did. Still you will need to do better. Especially when assuming someone is confused and then gets schooled about what you didn't know.

 

Nice try at covering up your confusion. And returning the remains of soldiers killed in a war does not fit even your posted definition of reparations.

And by the way the agreement doesn't say who will pay for returning the remains if any. You are trying too hard and failing. In fact I believe the agreemen says jointly which by your silliness means the US is participating in the reparations.

 

Its a form of reparation. Despite you not being fully educated about it.



In a joint statement signed by the leaders, the countries committed to the recovery of the remains and the immediate repatriation of those already identified.....snip~

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

That means Lil Kim would be picking up the tab.

Your just upset that Trump has lil Kim in a neat Lil Box.