Mexico's leftist Lopez Obrador wins largest landslide in country's recent history

Be interesting to see how this works out for Mexico and for the US. On the one hand we may have the next Venezuela on our border which will exaserbate the existing problem of illegal immigration across our border but on the other hand Mexico is already such a cess pool of crime and corruption that I wonder if it can get any worse.
One thing for sure though is this shows that most Mexicans are leftist and that's why the democrats want as many of them in this country as possible with the hope that at some point they can make it legal for them to vote.

"Donald Trump, the US president, was quick to congratulate the 64-year-old, who has charted a careful course of not antagonising his northern neighbour, but vowing to put Mexico first.

"I look very much forward to working with him,” said Mr Trump. “There is much to be done that will benefit both the United States and Mexico!"


Less welcome to Mr Lopez Obrador’s team, perhaps, was the swift congratulations send by Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro – leader of a country which Mr Lopez Obrador’s critics said would be his model.

“May the wide avenues of sovereignty and friendship between our people be opened,” he said. “With him, truth triumphs over lies, and hope in the great motherland is restored.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexico-apos-leftist-lopez-obrador-014647881.html

 

Venezuela had the right idea. They just didn't do it right.

Socialists never learn.

 

Socialism, like any ideology and religion ... is good in theory, but practically not functional because of the nature of human beings!

 

Agreed and as bad as Mexico already is we may soon have a Cuba on our southern border. Yet another reason to get the wall built.

 

Sadly it seems like it is also the life saver of dying nations.

Whether it is from the Right or the Left (Nazi or Soviets), people in failing nations seem to cling on to Socialism as an idea that will "save them" from the problems they are seeing.

Venezuela is a perfect example, this time coming from the Left.

I have a feeling that as things get worse and worse, people wanting a border wall will outnumber those that don't by a huge margin.

Support for a border wall is already sky rocketing in a short period of time. I am not a fan of polls anymore as they have been proven to be pretty much complete politically driven lies, but at least we can get a glimpse of things.

We have seen poll after poll showing that "Americans don't want a racist border wall!", something I found strange as even in Southern California I have noticed the opposite from speaking with people, but that is anecdotal and doesn't mean much.

The one thing that is easy to see, is that the polls have been growing more and more towards buliding the wall.

Even Leftist CBS has recently come out with a poll showing more Americans now WANT a wall as opposed to not.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timot...believe-a-border-wall-is-a-good-idea-n2494000

Left leaning CBS conducting a poll where more than 50% want the wall is a sign of the times. I have a feeling that number is going to rise and rise and rise.

 

I have a feeling you are right. As Mexico turns into Venezuela the attitude toward the wall will definitely shift towards the build it faction.

 

But the liberals here said it would never be built because Trump didn't do it in the first hour.

lol

 

Well, Mexico really is gonna build a wall, but it's gonna be the one they put the fash against.

 

Personally, I have never understood the hatred of many Americans against Cuba since their revolution.
The US has previously made out of Cuba a puppet state in which the mafia ruled and where a brutal dictator - Batista - was backed by the US and in power. Sure, the Castro regime has also become a brutal regime, but it was not hostile to the US right from the start ... while the US was direct and even a CIA-Mafia collaboration to overthrow Castro existed because both are the same Interested in getting rid of Castro (No, that's not a conspiracy nonsense, it's evidenced by shared and published / released official US documents and multiple testimonies!).
The often-cited US rationale that the Castro regime is brutal and represses the people is ridiculous and utterly hypocritical in itself ... because, conversely, the US has supported the most brutal regimes to date, as long as they have been tough anti-communists and / or with Washington cuddle.

As far as Mexico is concerned, the certain hostility between Mexico and the United States is almost historical and there are and are reproaches in both directions. However, Trump has sharpened the whole thing considerably and the outcome of this election in Mexico is also a sign of the Mexicans against Trump.
With the idiotic, because long-existing wall and all the attitude against Mexico, the US must also be careful that it does not become the own goal.
Trump has also declared China to be an enemy and when these two enemies - Mexico and China - come closer in the fight against Trump, then it will be anything but "funny" for the US. The scenario is not outlandish, on the contrary ... because look:

- China is incredibly thirsty for oil ... Mexico is one of the largest oil producers!
- Mexico sells a lot of agricultural products, China buys a lot, and since the Trade War with the US has arrived, Mexico can easily sell the same things to China instead of the US
- A strategic and wider partnership between China and Mexico brings both benefits.

And what do the US want to do about it? Invade the armed forces in Mexico? Maybe, but then the reputation of the US is completely destroyed and they will no longer play a role in the world .... to sanctions against the US by others!

 

First off your lack of knowledge about Castro and Cuba and their attempts to spread communist governments throughout South America is astounding. Not to mention their cooperation with the Soviet Union to be a base for it's nuclear missles.
Secondly your assertion that Mexico somehow voted against Trump is a bit far fetched but they did vote against capitalism and for socialism. This is bound to make a bad situation worse in that country and as stated in the OP will exaserbate the illegal immigration problem we already have and is yet another reason to build the wall.

 

But ... I know that very well. Castro was NOT hostile after his victory over Batista, But the US ... on the contrary was directly to him!

And since when does the US have the sole right to represent their interests in Central America and South America and to violate sovereignities, and since when did all have to dance to the whistle of Washington?
Yes, it was Cold War and yes, the USSR had missiles stationed there with nuclear warheads and yes, there was the Cuba crisis with a nearly 3rd world war.
You have the evil and hypocritical, widespread view in the US that only the others are the bad ones, but never your own, and if they do, then it is arrogantly justified as "normal."
And why do the Mexicans have to submit to the US ... or even the idiot in the White House with its even more idiotic wall, which already exists long ago?
Yes, the winner is a bad linker, but Trump has already quarreled with the right predecessor. It will be funny and maybe yes find the left China and the now left Mexico indeed together with a common new enemy USA?

 

The Soviet Union and their proxy Castro were definitely the bad guys. Mexico has never been a friend of ours and have always been a huge pain in the ass on our southern side.

 

Nope, they haven't.

And remember that it was a democratic president who sent the army down there to pick a fight with them just so we could go to war with them, which we did.

I miss those old democrats, they had balls.

 

That would be you against the wall then. The rev always eats its own

 

Does this mean all the people fleeing Mexico will turn around and go back, since Socialism promises welfare, healthcare, free education, food, clothing and shelter for all, guaranteed by the government?

 

Yes, socialism means instantly making everything perfect. That's how actual socialists think it works, and not an absolute parody only taken seriously due to the far reaching impact of right wing propaganda

 

Amlo didn't win by a "landslide", he got 53%, that was plenty, more than enough, nobody came close, but its just as close to half as the 47% who voted for someone else.

Amlo is a demagogue, I endured his mayoralty in Mexico City, he's as corrupt as the rest of them, his socialist pitch is pure populism.

 

Carve this somewhere:

His election, making Vasconcelos the FM, marks the beginning of North American Union.

If Obrador plays smart he drives America in deeper divisions. Sending more migrants starts changing demographics of some states. Having already been ashamed by Obrador's open rejection of not paying for anything Trump has made as his election promise, the administration will have been perceived as cornered, thus been forced to do something in return that earns back the reputation has just been ripped off by a lower state; like sending troops to states bordering Mexico. All this populist overloads gain secessionists the upper hand to lobby for many policies that destroy the Republic from within and making it appear a more random state to suit better in an international union like the kind that winds up in Europe soon. Canada's timely pressures for bringing trade all back to what it was before will be just another crack on the isolationist wall that team Trump would like to build. Tough days are ahead !

 

I wouldn't be so sure, Amlo just got elected, he assumes office in about 5 months, he doesn't have much of a 'track record', we will seen how he performs (I can attest with certitude and evidence he sure didn't deliver as mayor in Mexico City). Trump's been at it for over a year and a half, has an impressive 'track record' of delivery on his campaign promises. Odds are that Mexico will end up paying for that wall (if it ever gets built).

 

You are the one that has no knowledge of Cuba and the revolution. Stop reading American propaganda and find out the truth.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=Lx...=onepage&q=us propaganda against cuba&f=false

 

Yes, because E-Verify is not going to stop 20 million mexicans who are fed up with the chaos in their country

 

Then there will soon be two demagogues ... one in Mexico City, the other in Washington. Let's see who can fool his people more ...

 

Are you wearing your Che T shirt or is it in the laundry?

 

Is that your serious answer, if your claims and your expressed opinion about Cuba are refuted with facts like this?

In reverse ... Are you running around with an "I love CIA fooling of people" T-shirt?

 

What facts? You just have leftist propoganda.