How do you feel about the Me Too movement?

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Laughable at best. All locker room braggadocio is BS if you don't have pictures.
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stranger than strange.
    Not One
    of the "Me Too" whores who became rich and famous via sexual activities
    has divested themselves of their ill gotten money and fame.
    Hypocrisy. Si?
     
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  3. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Closest I ever got was a college stage play where in I got to glare at the female lead in 'Cabaret.' I had married one of the girls in the chorus line a bit before that, we are approaching our 45th wedding anniversary. The question was pretty much meant to be rhetorical as no one really is going to have an answer. Your question is much the same. Both would yield interesting info but we are highly unlikely to ever get that info.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I feel for any woman in that situation....I get it...it sucks, you don't want to be there but you are and have to deal with it.

    I'm sorry but that's life and its not good.

    You either deal or you don't.

    I just don't know......I don't know what I would do if that was my career....I'm a waitress and if my boss tries that he will get a glass cup smashed in his face but its a worthless job ...it doesn't mean anything.

    I would like to sit here and judge these women but I can't, I'm not in their shoes.

    Its easy to sit here on the internet and proclaim to live up to your standards but that doesn't mean much when you have kids to support.
     
  5. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    I work on the theory that if it isn't for sale one shouldn't advertise it what ever it is. My wife was gifted with a fairly sharp tongue and an occassionally vicious sense of humor which tended to keep the worst of the twits at bay.
     
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    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    As I said both men are pigs. But one gets a pass. Do you remember what Jimmy and Adam called their female co-hosts on the The Man Show? If you said "juggies" you are correct. That is a reference to big bouncing breasts. And the total objectification and dehumanization of those women. But, yeah, Trump is the devil and JimKim is now a darling of the "smart set." The same smart set who wore ****s on their heads.

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    There is a mixed bag here. Obviously it is long since time that private entities like businesses and organizations pay serious attention to these accusations of impropriety and/ or harassment, especially when someone seems to acquire them them like raindrops sliding down a window! it is important not just to write up the policies but to follow through vigorously. Every accusation must be investigated Heads need to roll a lot more often than they have been rolling over the years, but there are a couple of caveats.

    1. You cannot empower women in these situations without also empowering some not very honest women too. Not all women are honest truthful perfectly awesome angelic souls. There will be women who lie, who manipulate, who exaggerate and try use any system created, for less than pure purpose. Some women are ambitious. Some women are vindictive. Some women like attention. A system based on a simple rule "Believe the woman', is a system begging for abuse of process and some terrible results that can impact lives for a very very long time. A man wrongly accused, fired and virtually unhirable secondary to this kind of accusation, can a victim of a bad process too. It affects his reputation in the community, his family, his economic stability and leaves him legally liable. The process of investigation needs to be balanced with at least three possible findings: guilt, vindication, and something in between that allows for some misunderstanding, some miscommunication, some insensitivity.
    2. The standards of behavior and misconduct have not been chiseled in stone. This truly is a moving target and people of both genders are going to miss the bullseye, when the target has been moving a lot. These standards and policies have become considerably more stringent in the last five or ten years.

    We have to apply some common sense here with cases that go back ten or twenty years. I will use the DUI analogy. Its great that we are more aware of how the bodily system is impacted with small amounts of alcohol and it is great that states have changed the blood alcohol levels to reflect a more safe and stringent reading. It is patently unfair to start looking back at old DUI cases, and convicting people, based on a blood alcohol reading sitting in today's statute, that did not apply when they drank those beers that warm June night five years ago when they got pulled over! But you can still apply a standard to past behavior and hold them accountable. Being so drunk you could not stand up, walk the line, spell a word backwards and touch your nose, was always inebriated driving. Similarily, the 'casting couch' was always unethical. Pressuring a woman to have sex to keep their job was never acceptable and unwelcome touching, and nasty sexual comments was always wrong. We should not shy away from demanding people be accountable for past conduct when the expectation was clear.

    3. We must not forget that there are good reasons for statutes of limitations in the law. it is true that it is incredibly difficult to make old charges stick, but it is also incredibly difficult to defend against a charge that is 15 years old. Evidence gets lost and tainted, witnesses drift away, and get bad memories, alibies are often impossible to pin down. We should be real careful before we decide to forego those legal lines, because old cases can make for some really bad justice on both sides.

    4. Last point applying a standard of behavior and accountability that you have not educated about, is counterproductive and unfair. We need to teach, teach, and listen, listen.
     
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    Still doesn't mean he groped or touched the women.
     
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    Welp, its his word (and the word of several women) against his word.
     
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    #MeToo has simply over reached, it is a good message that people should be able to come forth with what they feel is abuse. However most people in the work world now kinda just laugh at it and it doesn't seem to get much respect anymore.

    I personally have been "molested" by several women when I was building my business. It isn't a men vs woman thing, it is a in power vs out of power thing. When I was 28 and had the VP of multi million dollar corporations take me out for drinks, there was no way in hell I was going to get angry with her for pressing my head into her massive fat boobs. She was getting along with me and pushing my product, I simply didn't care.

    But the Weinstein type stuff is just flat out ridiculous. Living in Los Angeles and knowing actresses and models, those industries are REALLY bad. It is almost expected to be sexual, when it all broke a lot of those same girls shrugged and said "Yeah, duh"
     
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    It has become women wanting to be a victim in any circumstance. Now we're supposed to think catcalling is sexual assault.

    It diminishes the problems with actual sexual assault.
     
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    Where do women not have a say in the US?
     
  13. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    Interesting.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    One thing I can't get behind is that it seems to target strictly " White Male " All white males aren't evil people.
     
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    it's fine for those that can't think or speak for themselves.
     
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    What about the other aspects of it?
     
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    #MeToo movement? Meh. It's as useful as feminism. In other words, completely useless here in the West. In some ways can actually be considered dangerous.
     
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    Literally every women I know has a story of being sexually harassed. Almost all of them have stories of being sexually assaulted.

    Enough is enough and it’s about ******n time a movement like this has started.
     
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    OP...if crimes are committed then send the perp's ass to jail. But I agree with the French gals...men have a right to pester women.

    The TV show LEGIT summed up the crazy women. "If Lesbians hate men, why do they dress and cut their hair like men? The Jews don't dress like Nazi's"

    Women nowadays are really wacky. They destroy their beauty with all that ugly ink, get pierced up and put rings in the nose and privates. They don't know what to **** up next. All those tattoos look like a skin disease.

    The ones with rings in their nose look like barnyard animals...what a mess. And their disposition of most of them is terrible.
     
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    They thought they were getting the better of the deal. Fame and fortune for a blow job? They made their choice and apparently were satisfied.
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    There's two sides to every story.
     
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    Useless posturing combined with the lefts usual surfeit of pointless virtue signaling.
     
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    Or when it's like those two white sisters who were raped by those illegals poundmetoo works two ways, so its twice as funny. Get it? Cause there's two of them. Hilarious.

    :roflol:
     
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    Women do need a movement. But what happens when things go too far? Does there need to be a correction?
     
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    I hope the women who falsely accuse men of rape eventually burn in hell.
     

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