The Susan Collins Speech was Historic

Unsupportable nonsense.

 

Sure. As long as we're not sitting in a court, getting accused of being a serial rapist should only require an allegation. No proof necessary.

Anyone who believes this nonsense is bat**** crazy.

 

"...but certain fundamental legal principles—about due process, the presumption of innocence, and fairness—do bear on my thinking, and I cannot abandon them." Senator Susan Collins

Today she stood up for principles that directly reflect why our Constitution is so unique and precious.

 

Again, presumption of innocence doesn't apply in a job interview because of the danger of nominating a bad person and the interviewee has a burden to prove he's right for the job. Would you let someone in your house with a 50% chance of being a rapist?

 

Presumption of innocence when accused of ANY wrong doing is the "golden thread" of society. It is the entire basis of our justice system.

This "job interview" talking point is pure bull****.

NO ONE should suffer the INJUSTICE of being falsely accused for ANY reason in ANY circumstance.

If you don't understand that, I pity you.

 

No, presumption of innocence is only used in the court. The standard of evidence is very high in court because we are talking about ruining a man's life here. In a job interview the interviewee has a shared burden to prove he's qualified. You won't hire a man who had a 50% chance of being a rapist but you also wouldn't jail him.

 

Sen. Susan Collins never disappoints. She did her homework on this and went beyond what was required. Sen. Collins is a conservative moderate from Maine. I sometimes wonder if New England is the only area of the country that hasn't totally lost its mind. Her full 45 minute speech is will worth a listen. She took us to school. Well done senator.

 

What lies?

I keep asking you but you never respond with any answers.

Why?

 

How about Murkowski speech?

 

What really got me was the fact that she was impressed that Kavanaugh testified 'under oath' that he didn't do it. I guess she has never learned that is what all guilty people do when they're denying something.

 

She had a good speech. Her reasoning wasn't as logical as Collins, and she reached the wrong conclusion, but Murkowski made some sense. She didn't look foolish.

She will vote "present". She can't bring herself to vote yes or no.

 

Well there is no evidence to support that or anything else he has been accused of, as the senator pointed out.

 

I don't even know why I bother wasting time on people arguing for a world where people can be considered a "50% rapist".

Remember that when it happens to someone you know.

 

It's based on precedence. I don't know this blassey ford woman, but I have read the democratic party's playbook. They always pull these broads out of their hat when the stakes are high.

You're right though. Presumption of innocence works in a court of law, but this is no court of law. It's politics, and she is being used to give senators who might need a good reason to not vote to confirm. That's not a conspiracy theory, but just the way democrats are. If the democrats owned the senate, nobody would know who this chick is because they could just say that they're going to hold off on the confirmation until after the mid-terms.

 

The overwhelming majority that have come forward support Kavanaugh. Have you stopped to think how many people would have to be lying for these few to be telling the truth?

 

The most troubling part of the Democratic group think talking point mantra dealing with the Kavanaugh confirmation process is that someone actually told these lemmings that the presumption of innocence only applies when facing a charge in court.

Seriously, I've heard this so much as a talking point that it numerically confirms the theory that most Liberals are mindless followers who will say and repeat just about anything.

The presumption of innocence is a fundamental civil right that can't be taken away from a person by mere accusation and under any circumstance.

 

I mean yeah we got her yes vote but she made him seem like a ****ing moderate. I hope she's wrong and he's super radical and pissed at the left for the rest of his life

 

Roberts is now the swing vote.

It is already a given that Kavanahgh (just like Gorsuch) will be a mindless Thomas clone.

 

God I hope you're right man. This is no time for conservatives to be anything but hard right idealogues.

Honestly anything else is just bad for the country.

 

You mean this due process?



Hey guys. Watch this crap. I am really funny. She has boobs. I have the mentality of a third grader. Take a picture of me being funny. Damn, I am so cute.

 

So just what do you expect innocent people to do when they're denying something?

 

There are methods...

 

They walked them back because Swetnick's story is literally beyond belief in the first place, and the NYT couldn't find even one person to corroborate Ramirez's story so she backed of hers rather than risk being sued

 

It was a good speech

For the first time ever I am impressed by susan collins