A Question For Trump Supporters

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but your need to resort to insults instead of thinking doesn't intimidate or interest. But just for curiosity sake what is your business and how exactly has Trump benefitted it?

    And yes all of us with a balanced portfolio invest in overseas companies as well as the stock market and bonds, etc,etc. And that Moron you elected has made a bit of a mess.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Except of course about 84% of all stocks are owned by the top 10%. The remaining 16% are split among the approx 50% of the rest of the population. Essentially known as peanuts. So take the figures which are indisputable and you can figure out exactly who the real beneficiaries of the Trump tax cut are.
     
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    nice attempt at moving the goalposts. but alas they’re pretty hard to move when people are paying attention.
     
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    chingler Banned at Members Request

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    it is about defeating failed policies and the restoration of the values which made this the most prosperous nation on earth. this happens to make liberals cry. c’est la vie.
     
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    When liberals tears flow it is a good thing for the country, the people and the ideals.
     
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    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/thi...es-of-jobs-that-are-thriving-under-trump.html

    Compare that with the 75% of jobs created under Obama that were part time, and I'm sure more than a few of them use to be full time but were reduced to part time due to Obamacare.
     
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    I am.

    That's due to the government being too big. Trump hasn't done anything to curb our out of control government spending. That's the major item I'm disappointed in Trump for.

    Were you worried during the Obama era? Seems many folks worry about it only when the party they don't support is in office.
     
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    Really having a problem with Trump's successes, aren't you?
     
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    Why?
     
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    Car insurance is NOT mandatory. Liability insurance IS.
    As for your vehicle, the choice to insure it is left open and should your vehicle be found unsafe as a result of improper or insufficient maintenance you might face a fine and be required to take it off the road until it has been made safe. The maintenance of vehicles owned by others is totally a responsibility of their owners. Why should the health maintenance of individuals be any different? Government does have a duty/responsibility to assure the safety of society as a whole, in the case of highly communicable diseases, but nothing more.
     
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    If you want to place blame for our deficits on those who are truly responsible, it is a cumulative process which began in 1913 with Wilson resulting from passage of the 16th and 17th amendments and the Federal Reserve Act, which laid the groundwork for all that followed. Those I would blame most for "growing" deficits would be FDR, LBJ, and BHO, primarily. While other administrations have increased deficit spending as a result of events requiring immediate, but temporary attention, once government acquires increased collection of revenue when the cause resides the spending of the revenue is continued by distributing it to existing perpetual programs or creating new ones rather than paying down debts or returning it to the people.
     
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    And don't forget the Presidents that when revenues increase decide to cut taxes instead of using the revenues to pay down debt. I think it is fair to consider cutting taxes as a transfer of wealth from future generations to the current generation.
     
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    Nope. The only significant sucess is his two supreme court appointees one of which of course was stolen by Republican chicanery from Obama. And appointing Conservatives to the Supreme Court isn't going to return America to the 1950s no matter how hard the Conservatives wish for a past that exists only in their minds.
     
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    Nope because he was moving in the right direction and his spending was necessary for America to recover from the Bush fiasco. Trump is moving in the wrong direction on the deficit.

    It is OK to run up the deficit if circumstances demand it. Like wars or economic disasters. Running up the deficit in order to cut taxes for the rich is not acceptable unless of course younare one of the very rich.
     
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    Well, tax cuts should be accompanied with immediate spending cuts. But as long as politicians in Federal offices are allowed to use the spending by Federal government to purchase votes of their constituents nothing will change in spending. The solution, as I see it, is to go back to the source and make the corrective actions. With the exception of Wars and great natural disasters, the Federal budget could be balanced and deficit accumulation eliminated.
     
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    The 50's were better than the 40's; that is called progress. Now, we are trying to make this decade better than the last- in the form of progress, not regression to the stone age.
    At least, the republicans are; can't say as much for the opposition.

    I listened to a blind magician a while back, in an interview. He stated that there are much worse things than being visually blind, and among the points he listed procrastination, denial, self-deception, laziness.... and noted how common and devastating those problems were. He was right.
     
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    Republican Rhetoric Propaganda has been working overtime since the Elections 2016
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Sure Republicans are trying to make things better. You know like the return of back alley abortions, or gender discrimination, or racial prejudice. To you that might be better. To me not so much.
     
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    No tax cuts should be implimented after the debt is paid down.
     
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    I'm afraid that's never going to happen, without restoring the original checks on Federal spending.
     
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    Of course those aren't true except in the minds of those who hate and if you could look beyond your bias, you might find a great many things to like, but obviously that will never happen.
     
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    There is a waiver for the individual mandate. A utility shut-off warning, as an example, qualifies you for a hardship exemption; a physical copy of the warning is required. A domestic violence experience also qualifies, and iirc, no proof is required. You do have to itemize your taxes, which can be an extra couple hundred if you pay someone else to prepare your taxes, but its still way cheaper than paying the penalty. I've been exempted for the last three years.

    But I guess it doesnt matter now :)
     
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    I don't have any of that anyways.
     
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    Car insurance is not mandatory as long as you don't drive it on public roads. If you take out a loan for it, the bank requires it as a condition of the loan, if you pay cash you don't have to get it.
     
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