Hate crimes up 226% in counties where Trump rallies took place.

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Antifa?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An Alpha male who has no other redeeming value other than being big, traveling with a girl and 5 or 6 lesser men, and this is something that you encountered a lot and you call them entourages? LOL......This is preposterous. I am sure you could point to an example or two of such, but to pretend like this is the norm or even common, is nothing short of nonsensical.
     
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    While not an everyday occurrence, it happens often enough, especially in clubs and at social events. Typically the alpha tends to have a wad of cash.

    For awhile I had a girlfriend who convinced me that we could get into ritzy clubs. Not only without having to pay, but also without having to wait in line, just with our looks. Places that I could ill afford. But if you have the look, they just wave you on in. You'd always see some guy or another holding court.

    At sporting events, look up to the skyboxes. Many will be filled with the dynamic I described. You even see it in homeless groups.

    I first became aware of such social groupings in high school. At a burger king to be exact. A group of boys came in. The obvious leader was holding on to a girl. As we waited in line I began to flirt with the girl... Later on I came to recognize it quite often. The big man on campus thing. My high school was big enough that several such groupings existed. It also occurred in college.

    It pops up quite often in movies, especially coming of age movies. It is a characteristic of street gangs and mobsters.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    C'mon man. Nobody wants to hear your one sided self-serving descriptions, and they posess no probative value whatsoever. It is just meaningless hot-air. Truly, nobody cares about your experiences at Burger King while you were in high school.
     
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    NO worse so than the sociology departments at every major university in the US.
     
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    But then I don't worship other men. You can't disprove my claims so you attack me personally.

    So why is it that you worship Trump. What has Trump ever done to help you? Besides the obvious side show clown entertainment.
     
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    -Telling you that no one wants to hear your stories about your trips to Burger King in high school is not attacking you personally. It is attacking your stories about Burger King and how that has no probative value in this discussion. You seem very confused as to what constitutes a personal attack.

    -I never said or indicated that I "worship" Trump. For that matter I dont remember even mentioning Trump in this particular conversation. With that being said, I can quickly explain what Trump has done to help me. For starters, I am fiscally conservative and socially moderate or perhaps even liberal. I am for a smaller federal government rather than larger, with the notable exception of the military. Off the top of my head, I can point to the obvious Conservative dogma with things like tax cuts, cutting unnecessary regulations, his supreme court choices, efforts to curb illegal immigration etc. I could list many more, but I would rather focus more upon the esoteric.

    In my opinion, above all else, Trump has exposed the media for what they really are, and that will be his lasting legacy. As a Conservative that has followed politics my entire life, it has always been sickening watching a truly leftist media pretending like they are centrist. People that truly follow politics have always known this, but your average Joe who pays very little attention was always being fed the leftward slant and were under the bogus impression that this leftward slant was unbiased. Since Trump and the mainstreams medias unvarnished hatred for everything in which he stands, it is abundantly clear where all major media outlets reside in terms of their political persuasion. Never again will your average Joe think that CNN, or MSNBC, NBC News, New York Times, Washington Post etc. is somehow coming from an unbiased position. For Conservatives, this represents enormous progress in reaching those in the middle that pay very little attention to politics.In this same vein, Republicans prior to Trump were always trying to please the leftist media which was something that was never going to happen anyway. Sure the media would promote a Republican as long as they were sticking their thumb in the eye of other Republicans ala John Mcain or Mitt Romney, but as soon as Mcain and Romney became the Republican nominee, they dropped them like a hot potato and painted them in the same way that they paint every other Republican. I believe that Trump has also given Republicans a backbone to fight for what they believe and what the leftist media says be damned. Lastly, I LOVE how much Trump drives the far left into literal hysterics. Watching them claw at the doors of the Supreme Court while crying was a joyful sight to behold, and I believe in the long run, the more these hysterical people are front and center, the better it is for Republicans being elected in the future. One thing that Trump does better then anyone else is bring out truly hysterical people in opposition to him.
     
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    Do you think it included Chicago where a terrible hate crime was committed when it was -25 below zero.
     
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    So liberals are committing hate crimes .... Surprise surprise !
     
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    I just found it odd the OP ignored 3 requests to link the study he's citing.
     
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    You mean they teach civics. No doubt the left would consider that propaganda.
     
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    How about when you don't espouse and encourage violence???
     
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    What was the increase in milk consumption?
     
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    Honesty departed when Dirty Donald was elected!!
     
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    Why would anyone conduct such a study unless there was a political agenda ?
     
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    Looks like the Soros funded hate hoax groups have been busy. Alot of Nigerians being paid by check.
     
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    The Smollett case in Chicago fits all the criteria of a hate crime, and it will definately be counted as such.

    That tells you everything you need to know about the "epidemic" of hate crimes since Trump took office.
     
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    I do not doubt that this is correct.

    But it may be confusing causation with mere correlation--a frequent mistake.

    In other words, those counties where he chose to hold campaign rallies may have been counties whose residents--for the most part--were predisposed to like him.

    And their being fired up, upon hearing him, may have led to this result--even though he said nothing to encourage it.
     
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    So you are saying that trump isn't the problem. Rather it is the people who support him who are the problem.
     
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    First, I would like to read some examples of the "hate crimes" that have been committed by Trump supporters but, generally, I am frightened at how easily the chronically offended can exploit "hate crime" & "hate speech" laws to include anything they don't like hearing, seeing and reading.
     
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    It's unfortunate to see you agreeing with his blanket, group insult and sad that you are so unable to see past it, only agree.
     
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    Yup, just like in 2016? Back then, Trump would hold a rally, and the hate-filled Democrats would gather in groups and mobs outside, and assault anyone they thought was a Trump supporter as they came out.

    Have you been to, or watched a Trump rally? There is no hate there.
     
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    Not precisely.

    I am saying that among those who support President Trump, there is a subset that is prone to violence; and that this is especially acute when they become truly fired up.

    Does that seem reasonable?
     

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