Alabama Senate passes bill banning nearly all abortions /MOD WARNING

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  1. Polydectes

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    Yeah people are going to attempt.
     
  2. MrTLegal

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    According to your state law, the baby is a person regardless of whether they have been born or not. And those "expenses" are covered after the child is born as well.

    So, that pregnant mother should be able to claim a dependent on her taxes under your State law.
     
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    Presumable you haven’t looked with a microscope at cells dividing.
     
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    Women do have the right to choose. They can choose to not have sex. They can choose to use birth control. They can choose to demand their partner choose birth control.
    What they can't do is choose to murder a child. And no, I do not think that is hyperbolic.
     
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    Should you have the right to kill your 1 year old if you decide that you really didn't want kids? How is that different from abortion other than an arbitrary age of the life?
     
  6. AKS

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    Is this really a question in 2019? Holy god! What sorcery is responsible for transforming a fetus into a baby as it leaves the mothers womb?
     
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    I have never heard of a bill preventing the right for men to undergo sterilisation. Wonder why?
     
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    I have never heard of a bill preventing the right of a woman to have her tubes tied. Did you have a point?
     
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    Can they choose not to get raped?
     
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    How many rape victims end up pregnant? This is a red herring and you pro "choicers" know it. Pregnant rape victims make up a tiny ,TINY fraction of all abortions (less than 5 hundredths of a percent) . For the record I'm for allowing an abortion in that case - but get it done early.
    https://abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/
     
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    According to number of conservatives - they seem to believe that.

    Reality - When Republicans FORCE a woman to carry a rapist's fetus to term, it's the same as raping that woman a second time.
    It is using FORCE to strip them of control of their body.

    Democrats should send these dicks in Alabama a thank you note - they just energized their base voters AND many Independent voters.
     
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  12. Bluesguy

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    Yes that is the pupose of passing the legislation to get it before which did not address the unborn person in the womb.
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    They can choose to take medication to prevent the conception.
     
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    I think it's too extreme. Rape or incest should always be a contributing factor... But with limits as well. I'm 100% against late term abortions regardless of rape or incest.
     
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    What does the number of rape victims who get pregnant matter? Talk about a red herring.

    Oh well...how nice of you to "allow for abortions in that case". Not sure why you think you have a say in what another person decides to do with their own body, but ok....smfh
     
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    They can choose not to.
     
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    And elective late term abortions are illegal already.

    As to rape and incest, the abortion in those cases is exactly the same as abortion due to consensual sex.

    So at least these filthy legislators are being consistent
     
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    It matters because there are so few. Is the point lost on you?
    And I don't want control of anyone's body, what a stupid, STUPID meme.
     
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    Indeed. But choosing not to is choosing to raise a child. End of discussion.
     
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    You know what I find enormously satisfying is this 180 degree switch that liberal folk have had to make in order to defend their beloved abortion. The criticism of the left amount to.. wait for it.... "you can't overturn RvW". Why? "stare decisis". or in other words, we must respect the precedent and be conservative here. And for that, I thank the AL legislature.

    Why is this important? Because if fundamentally conflicts with their usual practice of sending literally everything to the courts on the off chance a court will overturn existing precedent or legal definition under the law. But now? Suddenly that practice is inviolate and isn't up for review because 'government shouldn't be so invasive"... The juxtaposition of that with literally EVERY OTHER liberal position is astonishing. Never mind that the inception of RvW was in fact the radical departure from the existing law.. ignore that part... the now existing law is the only thing we should ever consider. And that is actually laughable.

    So, Thanks AL for cornering the hypocrisy of the left, and shining the brightest of all possible spot lights on it.
     
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    Personhood is defined by legal statute.
     
  22. Daniel Light

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    Only idiots and morons think that every woman who been raped admits it. It is a trauma. It causes PTSD. Having to undergo the pelvic exam to prove rape is not pleasant - and worse for a woman who has just been violated. It may take the woman time to come to terms mentally with the rape - so your "very kind" offer to FORCE her to get an abortion on YOUR timeframe is complete bull crap.
     
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    Why is this right to privacy so restricted to abortion? The number of anti-privacy laws on the books make RoevWade look ridiculous.

    I'm not saying get rid of abortion, I'm saying extend the right to privacy over everything without prejudice!
     
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    If YOU were the rape victim the numbers wouldn't be all that important to you.
     
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    One is viable and self-sufficient. The other is not.
     

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