What is your idea for Dystopia?

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  1. CCitizen

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    If you have an idea or an outline for Fiction or Science Fiction Dystopian Society, could you describe it briefly?
     
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    So theres multiple dimensions. Scientists learn to communicate with beings from one of them in the 1940s, using captured Nazi tech. Those beings offer ever increasing access to advanced technology in exchange for using that technology to oppress humanity, because humans are dangerous to these beings. The scientists use the technology to gain control over governments and corporations around the world, and direct them to oppress humanity under the guise of environmentalism, social stability and the greater good of the collective. Factions and wars and genocides and authoritarian regimes are implimented at the direction of these beings, through their loyal human scientists, to control humanity, keep them struggling to pay bills and taxes and fighting eachother instead of advancing themselves to build their own technologies, explore and colonize space and master the secrets of the universe that would eventually lead them to discover, compete with and ultimately conquer, with their warlike ways, these beings from another dimension.

    Eventually, it turns out that the beings actually feed on human life energy- they need humans to suffer and die or they lose their power, and eventually humans were destined to eliminate suffering and death via technological and spiritual advancement, which would have caused the beings from another dimension to wither away and cease to exist.

    Some of the scientists go rogue, and give humanity some of the technology they got from the beings, and a huge war starts between the scientists who do the beings' bidding and the rest of humanity who learn how they're being manipulated, but now know who the real enemy is and have some advanced technology to fight back with.

    The war spills over into space and even other planets that the scientists have used their ill-gotten technology to build labs and retreats on. Battles are fought, land sea air and space, between governments and corporations loyal to the being's scientists, groups that were created by them to fight others in divide and conquer strategies, cults that have used new tech to contact even stranger beings from an ever expanding multiverse and humans that just want all these crazy things to go away so they can build and explore in peace.

    You can take it from there :)

    If you turn it into a movie or TV series, I want a role as a frequently but briefly returning character, who just shows up to save the day now and then or offer comically obvious advice to the protagonists. Something along the lines of 'Bobby' in Supernatural 8)
     
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    I also listen to Alex Jones.
     
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    I think most realistic scenarios are only partial temporary dystopias. Civil war and such.

    For a true Dystopia enough people need to die so that government and infrastructure are not capable of functioning.

    I think it's very interesting that so many people are interested in or fantasize about the end of civilization. Makes me wonder if our subconscious knows something.

    There are opportunities for full on Dystopia
    Large meteor strike
    Yellowstone eruption
    Less likely a disease outbreak, ( i think the CDC would have a handle on it)

    EMP is fairly realistic but would be localized.

    The best dystopian story I've read recently is called " The Last Tribe". Just about good people planning to survive.

    Another really great one is "World War Z" by Max Brooks. The son of Mel Brooks.
    This one you need to listen to as it was done by a full cast of exceptional voice actors who'll you'll recognize and will suprise you.
    Also don't confuse it with Brad Pitts bastardization of the story, they have nothing in common.
     
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    What is the one thing every solar system has in common? They all have suns. People learned how to not only use fusion as a source of energy, but to also make matter as well. By converting the hydrogen in the sun into fuel, and through pressure, high density metals capable of withstanding the suns' heat and light are capable of being placed on it. One such colony suffers an electrical outbreak keeping heat shields from EMPing human minds. With all humans dead, the only 'life' left on the colony is robots who have to protect human life. With no human life to protect, robots have to learn how to protect the idea of humanity when they themselves don't know what it means to be human.
     
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    Anarchism or the total collapse of organized government.
     
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    Thank you. I have read your synopsis -- very interesting. You can be a Science Fiction writer.
     
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    The Trump administration.
     
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    Indeed, Donald Trump Jr's rule in 2040-2048 was the time of extreme War on Brain Circuitry. He was much worse then his father. But had Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez won in 2040, she would have abolished the First Amendment.
     
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    How about a possible dystopia? Read 1984 by Orwell . Not only is it possible but we are starting to resemble it in numerous ways .

    Except it is being pulled off better while only the astute recognize what should be obvious.

    Orwell turned out to be a prophet .

    We live in times where speaking the truth is a revolutionary act.
     
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    Thank you! USA 2061-'65.
     
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    This is not completely fictional. Duterte is much more Trumpy then Trump. Nevertheless, his Atheism and Blasphemy are evil and unforgivable.

    President Donald Trump Junior 2040-'48 is American Duterte without Atheism.
     
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    "1984", "Fahrenheit 451", "Atlas Shrugged".

    The political left is leading us down that path.
     
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    L Ron Hubbard much?
     
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    Sci fi and fantasy are rife with dystopian and post apocolyptic fantasies. Interestingly enough human history is populated with more than a few such that actually existed. Most of the MesoAmerican civilizations were more than a bit dystopian and many of them gave rise to brief descents into post apocolyptic style societies when they collapsed. The same is true of the Minoan Civilization, and various of the more bloody minded European Pagan societies. The rise and fall if Benin and ancient Zimbabwe in different parts of Africa appear to have followed a similar pattern but the information about them is far less complete.
     
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    You're right i guess i was viewing Dystopia rather narrowly , post apocalyptic i guess is what i was thinking.
     
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    The more dedicated lefties are defining that objective everyday.
     
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    Too much government with too many laws.
    "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws." Tacitus
    “There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.” Heinlein
    “You only have power over people as long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything, he's no longer in your power—he's free again.” Solzhenitsyn
    “All utopias are dystopias. The term "dystopia" was coined by fools that believed a "utopia" can be functional.” A.E. Samaan
    “Taking the kids from our districts, forcing them to kill one another while we watch – this is the Capitol’s way of reminding us how totally we are at their mercy.” Suzanne Collins
     
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    In the near future, scientists have invented a pill that allows anyone to commit painless suicide. Nothing like the bloody mess of people who jump off buildings or shoot themselves, it's perfectly designed, just after taking the pill you simply go to sleep and never wake up.
    Of course it was made for terminally ill people, and the government has tried to get it banned from the public, but to no avail, prohibition never works. Now everyone has access to it.
    Humans are naturally disgusted by violence, so violent suicide naturally only appeals to the most desperate fringe, but who can say they never thought they simply wanted to stop living? Now it is as easy to do as buying a pack of smokes.
    Suicide rates skyrocket worldwide, and it becomes the largest cause of death by far. Coupled to the natural low birthrate of developed societies, which now cover the entire globe, human population starts decreasing exponentially.
    Of course as an individual you can decide to beat the odds, fight against what the world has become and live until your natural death - and many do.
    However, no amount of individual action can beat the hard truth of population statistics. The survival/reproduction system of humans is broken beyond repair, and the eventual extinction of humanity seems unavoidable...
     
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    The gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex and its crony billionaires, thwarted in their efforts to a) make enough of the population permanently dependent, b) import enough third world permanent dependents, and c) undermine the Constitutional Republic enough to seize permanent control, begin a breeding and education program similar to what Epstein was planning out West sans the sexual abuse.

    Automated breeding facilities, using modern technology, churn out "parentless" children at an extremely rapid pace, who are then educated/indoctrinated as perfect statist-supporting consumers, in secret Complex "schools," and on social programs their whole lives. Once mature, these children are inserted by the thousands into key Complex resistant areas across the country.

    With only a few million of these thoroughly indoctrinated, highly trained and mobile "artificial citizens" tactically placed and moved around, the Complex could completely control elections and politics while maintaining the facade of a legitimate Constitutional Republic.

    Legitimate citizen taxpayers would have no idea of the program's existence as they were moved more and more towards a totalitarian bureau-state similar to that which retarded China's growth and development for 1000 years while enriching and entrenching the imperial "bureau-class." The private sector would be taxed right up to the Laffer Curve/J Curve limit in support of the Complex. Totally disarmed individuals would have little rights as against the Complex bureau-state, and if anyone complains, they get Winston Smithed, their children stolen and inserted into the indoctrination program with the artificial citizens.

    Such a government could endure for thousands of years and innovation would slow to a crawl as it did in China during that time. Once a tipping point was reached, the breeding program could be dispensed with and the bureau state could do whatever it liked with defenseless dissenters, genocide them, reprogram, etc.
     
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    San Franshetco and Shackramento.
     
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    The year is 13045 and human evolution has been driven by the suns expansion dwindling CO2 content on Earth through solar wind and increased heat. After attempting for thousands of years to increase Carbon Dioxide in equilibrium with the aging star, Humanity instead decides to genetically produce gill structures and move underwater. Observations indicate that Jupiters moon Europa has thawed enough for habitability so a select group of colonists head there....only to realize they are not alone. "Jovian Invaders" chronicles their adventures.
     
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    Meanwhile the Amish will still be there.
     
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    Are you trying to steal pitches to sell to Netflix?
     
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    The trouble is it never works for long trouble is it never works out well in the end. Even indoctrinated people start having ideas if their own when the level bull crap they are required to swallow gets to extreme. Hence Maduro finds he has less and less support hourly even among the poor.
     

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