Corona Virus Update

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  1. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That you dont need stats to discern this virus is much worse than the flu .

    Overwhelming medical care as in italy and soon possibly here isnt experienced with the yearly flu .

    And those that ignore this reality as they claim this virus is no worse than the flu need their heads examined! Their processors are fried .
     
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    why is it a bunch of nonsense? what's your argument?
     
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    my advice for U.S. citizens and other for places with low temperature

    hot temperature in the house and buckets full of hot water to keep high humidity indoors.
    That seems like a bunch of nonsense, sorry.



    why is it a bunch of nonsense?
     
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    Granted that there is a massive difference between 14 million and 128 million infections. Even with only 1% dying the low end is 140,000 dead and it is more likely to be four times that number in reality.

    My concern is that while governors might want to insist on maintaining social distancing measures there will be a segment of the population that will believe the criminal IMPOTUS and resume their lives after Easter regardless and especially so if they are not personally impacted. If that happens then the outcome will fall somewhere between the high and the low.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Jake, self isolation is best started sooner rather than later. The danger period is when you don't know that someone else is carrying the virus. Social distancing saves lives and the more distance you maintain the better your odds of not getting it. If the governor just issued a "mild" warning it means that the disease is already in your community.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Because the virus thrives in a warm humid environment like your lungs.
     
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    No, they just got hit well before everyone else and their new case numbers plummeted after lockdown. So their sick have either died or recovered. In a couple of months the US will have a similar or larger number of recovered.
     
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    According my readings, in the environment the virus lsuvive better in dry air.
    the flu virus also survives better in dry air. In a temperature of more than 30 centigrade, it survives only 2 hours in the air, and in a temp of 10 centigrade, it survives more than 24 hours. I read it years ago, so the numbers are not exact.

    i can't explain the paradox, but i read it in most than one place.
     
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    The results are MIXED which is why you should look at the original Scientific Study rather take as gospel what you are told via a source that might not be credible.

    https://www.condair.co.za/scientifi...-humidity-on-coronavirus-survival-on-surfaces

    So regardless of the actual room temperature the most EFFECTIVE Relative Humidity (RH) is 50% as opposed to higher (as you recommend) or lower.

    Furthermore the FACT that the virus appears to be just as infectious on both sides of the Equator indicates that temperature does not play a significant role in eradication unless you go to extremes like in the 90+ Fahrenheit range but if the humidity is also high then the virus appears to be able to still survive.

    The object lesson here is don't just assume that whatever you read is gospel. Do your own research and see if it matches up to the FACTS.

    High temps and high humidity are actually LESS effective than high temps and moderate humidity. Furthermore a comfortable room temperature of 65 F and 50% humidity would be about as close to optimal as it gets when it comes to minimizing the survival of the virus but it can still survive on surfaces for 3 days under those conditions.
     
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    perhaps you have done a better seach than I.
    According to your seach too, very high temperatures are good to combat the virus. I think 28 celsius or 83 fahrenheit would be a good temperature for people at risk.
    Your text is for survival in surfaces, iperhpas they don't search the survivla time in the air because it's brief or because it's difficult.

    I stick with the idea of combating the virus by managing temperature and humidity.
     
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    Does that mean there won’t be much of an impact by C19 in tropical areas?
     
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    the temperature in tropical areas helps to diminish the impact, but the humidity has its influence too and the people's actions also influences.
     
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    Lack of humidity in Utah may be why its mortality rate is so low.
     
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    The Indonesians will be pleased.
     
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    The study your chart refers to looks stupid?
     
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    COVID-19 can have fatal consequences for people with underlying cardiovascular disease and cause cardiac injury even in patients without underlying heart conditions, according to a review published today in JAMA Cardiology by experts at The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston (UTHealth)
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200327113743.htm
     
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    You are proving my point. I said your argument was stupid, not the chart.
     
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    You have moved the goal posts like half a dozen times.. What "argument" of mine do you take issue with?
     
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    the brazilian company Prevent Senior used hidrocroxicloroquine and azitromicima to combat coronavirus.
    They used it in 50 patients and are satisfied. They used it only in very bad patients because of the colateral effects. The main colateral effect are on the heart and the eyes.
    The first patient was the mother of the funders and owners of the company!
     
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    You moved the goals, I brought them back, and you keep messing up. What is your problem with you moving the goals? [​IMG]
     
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    I saw on news today companies are making face shields....they looked simple enough to make. Kind of like a headband of sorts with a clear heavy piece of plastic attached to the front which could be velcroed.

    So how about while we're all home these days, they could send materials to those who want to volunteer their services like ME for example. I could sit and make them up while watching my favorite TV shows!
     
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    My understanding about the eye damage from long term users is they would give them an eye exam annually and if there was damage, it was correctable.
     
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    Just passed the 2000 deaths marks in the US.
    3 deaths on the NYPD in 48 hours.

    Italy is seeing a mortality rate of over 10%. Jeeezuz

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