Corona Virus Update

The latest facts and figures related to the pandemic.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/index.html

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/2019-ncov-factsheet.pdf

It is reported today that there are about 1500 known cases in the US

 

I was going to tease another coronavirus thread??? but since you're sharing CDC info and not hype, I'll shut up. Good information

 

Looks like Trump's response was excellent...

 

Not bad.

Besides, how long can it last? It was made in China!

 

Here's some more facts about how I think that number is way off....

But outside research into the illness suggests that the disease may not have come from the market after all—rather, it may have come into the market. Speaking to Science, Georgetown University infectious disease specialist Daniel Lucey noted that since the virus seems to have an incubation period of up to 14 days and the first reported case emerged on Dec 1, it’s possible the initial human infection took place in November. And since the virus presents only cold-like symptoms in many individuals, Patient Zero—whoever they are—could have spread it to others long before health officials knew what to look for. That means it could have infected humans before even making it to the market under scrutiny."

https://www.popsci.com/story/health/wuhan-coronavirus-china-wet-market-wild-animal/


So China told the world at best a month after this was active.......

"In 2018, around 611.47 million passengers travelled by air in China."

https://www.statista.com/statistics/275907/number-of-air-passengers-in-china/

So divide that number by 12 gives you 51 million people in China from around the world in that month...

So then if we think it was already here in America let's look up flu in November of 2019 because Drs would probably have diagnosed the Corona Virus as the flu since they didn't know about it yet...

"
Nationally, the percentage of clinic visits for flulike illness last week rose to 2.5%, putting it above the overall baseline of 2.4% for the first time. However, some regions of the country have been above their specific baselines for a few weeks now, and currently, 4 of 10 are above their baselines.

Another key indicator that rose last week is the percentage of respiratory specimens that tested positive for flu, which rose to 7.3%, up from the previous week."

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2019/11/us-flu-picks-pace-ahead-thanksgiving

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2019/11/us-flu-activity-gains-more-steam

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Will my health care provider test me for flu if I have flu-like symptoms?
Not necessarily. Most people with flu symptoms are not tested because the test results usually do not change how you are treated.

Your health care provider may diagnose you with flu based on your symptoms and their clinical judgment or they may choose to use an influenza diagnostic test"

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/testing.htm#flu-like-symptoms

 

Also..... 208,000 tourist fly to Wuhan every month thats not including those who fly to China altogether or Chinese that fly to other countries....


https://www.travelchinaguide.com/tourism/2019statistics/

 

The US is currently #39 in world infection rates, better than other countries with supposedly better health care systems than ours.

 

I've honestly wondered if coworkers and I have been fighting this since December. At first I had what seemed to be a flu. I got better but then got a really nasty lower respiratory illness that kept coming and going. I must have relapsed four times. I finally shook it off but had a really bad cough for two months. So did other people at our company. Maybe we got lucky and had some variant that will leave us immune to the bad one.

 

That sounds exactly like what my father had. He said it was the weirdest flu he ever had like it was bad than got better and kinda hung on for over a month

 

Also let's say it was Corona in December that you had, if you went to the doctor they'd have likely just gave you a flu diagnosis because they generally don't do tests per my other post from the CDC saying so.

 

Anthony Fauci, left, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, speaks as Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, looks on during a House Oversight and Reform Committee hearing concerning government preparedness and response to the novel coronavirus, on March 11, 2020, in Washington. (Andrew Caballero-Reynolds/AFP/Getty Images)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...177e0a-63b4-11ea-acca-80c22bbee96f_story.html

 

I've had the same thoughts. Many people near me had the "flu" a month ago. My son even came home from an out of state job with a cough that lasted a while ( he's 20 and young, very healthy). We certainly weren't testing for coronavirus nor was anyone aware of it much at that point. A local woman reported on facebook this morning that she was diagnosed with the flu yesterday. Hmmmm?

 

"where the initial outbreak in late December and early January quickly overloaded the health system and led to a high fatality rate."

The above is wrong, the first recorded case was December 1st and there is a 14 day incubation period so that could be somewhere in November when this first started. The Chinese government informed the US and the globe December 31 , so let's say the Corona Virus was active and unknown to the globe for 30 days. Wuhan alone receives 208,000 visitors in 1 month. China totally receives 11 million visitors and none of those numbers include Chinese outgoing traffic.....

 

Sure thing.

Message received.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...oronavirus-plan.569399/page-7#post-1071505387

 

Agree ,disagree ?

Same way with these prediction maps they're making... If they don't have the start date right couldn't they be starting on the peak instead of the actual beginning? Wouldn't that skew those models?

 

NASCAR will not be allowing fans to attend the races.

 

Who knows?

I will admit it is an interesting potential "theory".

I will give the authors that point.

 

I compiled all of that myself from multiple different sources....


"A study that came out on Jan. 25, 2020, notes that the individual with the first reported case became ill on Dec. 1, 2019, and had no link to the seafood market. Investigations are ongoing as to how this virus originated and spread. "

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho.../conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus?amp=true

 

Oh, really?

Great job. Good stuff. Bravo.,

And, once again, a very interesting analysis.

 

How will they handle Nevada when all of the hotels and casinos shut down in a few days?

 

Here is yesterday's and the one from two days earlier.
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CDC info is great but there are a lot of other reputable organisations out there as well as some spot on reporting.

I agree that the majority of info out there is sensationalist at best. Everyone has vested interests. Fear makes the media money, complacency makes the financial sector money. They are fighting it out and I'm not sure who is winning - looks like the former at this point.

This is clearly worse than Swine Flu, but it's easy to forget that infected 700 million to 1.4 billion people and we didn't have this environment of fear. At the same time, we beat that with reaaonable measures, not complacency.

 

That map indicates that Covid-19 has now spread nationwide there is no longer any possibility of localized containment.

This is going to be much worse than I expected.

 

Formula One just cancelled their opening event in Australia because of Covid-19.

 

There are probably thousands of people who have already had the virus and recovered and some who barely show any symptoms at all and were never tested. 3 people in a cluster group at Aspen have even refused to be tested so the numbers are greatly skewed.

The only way to get a real handle on it would be to test everyone for antibodies after the event and that won't ever happen.