Trump: States already clear of Virus can open 'literally' tomorrow.

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  1. Pred

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    What is many? Many die in car accidents. Many die from skin cancer. Many die in their pools. Many die in the ocean. Many die from chocking. Many die from allergies.

    But we don’t destroy the economy or lock people in their homes for any of those things. We can certainly open up the economy and some of the country. The longer we stay where we are the more jobs lost. The more businesses close. The more our retirement savings go poop. The more lives destroyed. The more people that suffer who have almost no chance of dying from this virus.

    It’s quite clear now that most of us have very little to fear. Certainly no more than getting in our cars everyday and risking never coming home. But we don’t fear that. Not rational people at least.
     
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    Well in this case google is correct ;)
     
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    Well in the UK we have just been given the statistics of who has been tested, number positive and number dead. The number tested is relying on my memory but roughly we have tested around 440,000 people - of those 108,000 have proved to be positive and of those around 14 and a half thousand have so far died. Using that as a very rough guide about a quarter of the UK is positive and of those who do catch the disease about 12% die. Very rough. If left to take its course that would lead to around 8 million deaths in the UK from the Coronavirus - given that if left to itself almost everyone would become infected.
     
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    So every country in the world are cooperating on this conspiracy? I agree with you about wars but both sides of the war would have to be in on this cvirus conspiracy
     
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    The thing I cant understand is, how this "quarantine" is going to change anything? At some point they will have to go out and more then likely it will reemerge and they will be infected.. I guess the only logical explanation is they "Whoever" forced this asinine plan want this to be a legacy of destroying a country and it's economy..

    I feel sorry for the young in this country having to following a group of adults like we see today :( Jesus, come out and take one for the young people damn selfish people :)
     
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    No Quarantine : First wave :250,000 die . September : Antiviral clinically tested and works. Second wave : 25 000 die

    With Quarantine: First wave: 60,000 die. September : Antiviral clinically tested and works. Second wave 30,000 die

    Difference in number of deaths = 185,000
     
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    We average about 7,600 deaths a day in the US.

    Yesterday we had +4,000 from the virus.

    If we open back up, it'll be 10,000 a day.

    How many per day is acceptable, in your opinion?
     
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    All central governments seek to consolidate and expand their hold on power, regardless of which side they belong to.
     
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    Adctually it was just one country and they used the world as pawns :) Think about it they have 1.4 billion with India coming in second. So sacrificing a billion would still leave Chiner with a population greater then ours, and that's not taking in to account our loses if they were to "unintentionally-Unfortunatly" incubate new virus's however times it takes to control planetary human life itself..
     
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    The ones who need to answer that question are the ones supporting the lockdown.

    Those who want to suspend normal life for the entire world need to explain how many deaths it takes to justify their authoritarian suspension of basic freedoms.

    So... what is the magic number of deaths that justify this response? And why?
     
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    What, predictions? And what antiviral/vaccine/antibody treatments are you claiming?
     
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    Do any of these deceased people who succumned to Covid-19 look like they were on 'the verge of death'. To my eyes, they look like average people. To my eyes, not one of them looks 'old'.

    Do you understand how supremely uniformed you sound when you talk like that?

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    They are what you call extreme outliers, when the average age of death is 80+ and nearly all of them have conditions or age, these are not normal. The kid in the middle looks to have some sort of serious medical condition.
     
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    I think 800 a day for a city of 8 million people, sounds about right
     
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    As tragic as this is, reality is just as tragic..
    Year after year people die needlessly from many events, in case you didn't catch that YEAR after YEAR! So where is everyone tears of sorrows for these 40,000 and the other over the last 10 years and those to die over the next ten :(
     
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    Let me guess, their ethnicity start with "J"...
     
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    You think that number is going to continue? Please tell me you don’t think it’s going to be 4000/day for the rest of the year? Also please tell me where they’re isolated. You think it’s country wide? Relearn statistics please. Next you’ll claim we’re doing worse than other countries because our total number of deaths are larger.

    People dying in NY and business closing in Indiana are not related. And where did you get 4K deaths in a day? There were 2174 yesterday.

    And no there won’t be 10k if people are social distancing and wearing masks, while still working in most of the country. Certain areas are worse than others. You let areas with less panic to start up again. NYC is a different story and contrary to popular belief we don’t all revolve around NYC.
     
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    Yes he is physically handicapped, he's one of the people with co-morbidities just as anyone with diabetes, HIV, hypertension, etc. are all compromised.
     
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    And depression and suicide are way up as is domestic violence. People's businesses which they have worked for all their lives are being destroyed. People can't afford to make their payments. Lives are being destroyed. We need to find ways to get life happening again. We can find safer ways of doing things but we need to start doing things.
     
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    1,000 a day.

    Because that's about a month away from 10,000 a day.

    Which is about a month away from 50,000 a day.

    Because math.

    Care to answer my question now?
     
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    And any solution should involve finding ways to isolate those kinds of people but we can't continue down the destructive path we are currently on.
     
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    Living in Australia must be boring. Very boring. Just sayin.
     
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    Maybe Chiner can loan us a couple hundred million as fodder ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    They're busy cleaning up their own piles of bodies.

    Their death toll is likely in the hundreds of thousands. If not millions.
     
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    I thank God every day ,that I live in Wyoming.
     
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