Trump: States already clear of Virus can open 'literally' tomorrow.

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Then they go and visit their parents.........
     
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    No, the incidence of people age 50 and younger, even an infant, is not rare at all. The only difference is that people that are in nursing homes, elderly living at home, and those people with co-morbidities succumb to this more than the others. That's logical of course. So no, the infectious rates among younger people is high, it's the death rates of younger people that are lower.
     
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    Nearly that many have died in 3 weeks from the cvirus.
     
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    I don't know as there will be, but there has never been a cure! And history shows that people still die in large number even after being inoculated and wide spectrum seasonal flu shots..

    All that aside, are you prepared for what this country will look like if we all stay hid until September? Somehow I don't think you are looking at this realistically..
     
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    Trump's Phase I includes opening up theaters and restaurants. Do you agree with that? Who goes to work first, those who need it the most or those who work outside like construction? What if you work for the utility company inside on a computer but your neighbor works for the same utility company but climbs poles. He gets to go back to work and earn a paycheck but you aren't allowed to. Is that fair?
     
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    No one said go back to normal
     
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    Then I won't see you in threads supporting the miraculous hydroxyquinoline hype, a drug that has had no clinical testing carried out.

    As for a vaccine, by mid 2021 is a possibility. An antiviral or other drug is possible by September
     
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    Ya so.. That's the reality of it I agree.. And my point is, mankind dies in many different and tragic ways.. Virus is just sad reality in the evolution on mankind.. The only difference this time is we are so ignorant to face our evolutionary frailty to virus that we have convinces ourselves that we can somehow hide from something that has been killing us from the beginning of our existence..
     
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    In other words, you're just throwing numbers out arbitrarily based on your feelings.

    Millions infected, but only a tiny percentage of whom will actually die.

    The original estimates accounted for social distancing. They simply overestimated the lethality of the virus. Whether they did so out of malfeasance or incompetence is the only question that remains.

    There is no reason to believe the number of deaths would be anywhere near that. In any case, I'm not the one arguing that there is some magic number of "unacceptable" deaths. You are. Therefore, the onus is on you, not me, to specify what that number is and why.

    Run and hide? I'm right here, chief. I just fail to see why I'm supposed to provide a number of "acceptable" deaths when I never argued that such a number existed.

    Bullcrap.

    My State government has declared the State a disaster area and issued a shelter-in-place order. My local government has shut down most of the city except for grocery stores. Millions of Americans are out of work and thousands of businesses are shut down. There is nothing to do and nowhere to go. Your obtuse denial of this reality is truly bizarre.
     
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    Sometimes, Trump isn't just risibly stupid. Sometimes he is dangerously stupid. This is one of those times.
     
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    Whichever system we implement, there will be those who feel it is unfair. We need to get things going though and the experts will have to decide the areas of least danger and/or most importance that should be a starting point. We are destroying way too many lives with the way things are currently headed.
     
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    @ronv actually believed the Chinese were reporting honest number.

    He still believes it.

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    COVID deaths in young people are extremely rare.
     
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    1% of 1 million people, is 10,000.

    so far we have 36,000 dead.

    and many of those who were infected but survived have permanent lung damage.
     
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    LOL, I posted a video a month ago of a Doctor in upstate new York that claimed he was saving COVID patients with hydroxyquinoline/zinc/and some antibiotic.. And the left scoffed at it..
     
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    At least provide some substance. Try to make an argument. This is just drivel.
     
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    doctor of what, geography?

    LOL!!!!
     
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    Of course we need to reopen the country for business, that's elementary. The challenge will be the timing and the 'hows'.
     
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    So what are they supposed to do? Wait 18 months or longer for a vaccine to come out? Or just accept the very small risk that comes with living in a free society?
     
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    Nah, the dangerous ones are the people who have crippled the economy and handed governments absolute power based on a virus that poses virtually no danger to the vast majority of the population.
     
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    Illinois so far as 26,000 cases and more than 1,000 deaths.

    what u gonna say when this triples?
     
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    Make up your mind, does the drug work or not?
     
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    No he was a Doctor and still is in Upstate New York.. He was the one featured on Rudy Giuliani blog and you all just eviscerated him and the Doctor and now look LOL

    It was real and so was the doctor ;)
     
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    It's been shown ad nauseam, what more could he possibly say?
     
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    funny, i know lots of healthy people that got sick from Covid.
     
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