NEW EVIDENCE SUPPORTING CREDIBILITY OF TARA READE’S ALLEGATION AGAINST JOE BIDEN EMERGES

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Six? Proof, please. I heard that she only spoke to a couple of people about it at the time and didn't even tell her own family until a few years later.

    Yes, "that type of credibility." Several of these are quite credible and there are contemporaneous witnesses.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12#jill-harth-4

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sconduct-karen-johnson-how-many-a9149216.html

    Do you really believe that all of these women are just making it up?

    The hypocrisy of the right never ceases to amaze ... Bill Clinton (Mr. Smarmy, as I've always called him) was busted for lying aout getting a blow job from an intern. During that whole fiasco, House Speaker New Gingrich made speech after speech about character, honor, family values, and morality. And all the while, ol' Newt was having an affair the woman who became his third wife. Typical.
     
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    yes 6
    her mother
    her son
    a coworker
    2 friends
    and her x husband
    also Reade can as tell you when and where it happened and filled a complaint

    Now I want you to compare all that to Fords accusations that all you liberal blindly believed with out an once of proof
    Ford couldn't tell you when it happened were it happened no one could remember it ever happened and she told no one till 35 years later
     
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    Lolwut?:roflol:

    ALL of those examples are Uncorroborated HEARSAY.

    And, some of that is Hearsay on top of Hearsay.

    No physical (or independent) evidence (beyond hearsay) exists. Period!

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    Ford ISN'T the Topic of this thread.

    This thread is about Reade's Unprovable "Allegations".
     
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    29 C.F.R. § 1604.11(b), evaluating each situation on a case-by-case basis. When there is some indication of welcomeness or when the credibility of the parties is at issue, the charging party’s claim will be considerably strengthened if she made a contemporaneous complaint or protest.7 Particularly when the alleged harasser may have some reason (e.g., prior consensual relationship) to believe that the advances will be welcomed, it is important for the victim to communicate that the conduct is unwelcome. Generally, victims are well-advised to assert their right to a workplace free from sexual harassment. This may stop the harassment before it becomes more serious. A complaint or protest may also provide persuasive evidence that the sexual harassment in fact occurred as alleged (see infra Section B). Thus, in investigating sexual harassment charges, it is important to develop detailed evidence of the circumstances and nature of any such complaints or protwhether to the alleged harasser, higher management, co-worke8ests, rs or others..

    I brought up Ford to expose your hypocacy and double standard plays into your strength or lack of it in your argument
     
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    Ford couldn't even prove she ever met Kavanaugh.
     
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    What physical evidence would you expect to see? The corroborating witnesses are independent, one even plans to vote for Biden.
     
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    Can you provide proof or factual evidence or did some website tell you that?
     
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    Those six can maybe (reportedly) testify that she was concerened about improper comments made in her office. Not to rape, which is the new allegation. Improper comments in offices we all now understand affected many women more than we knew at the time.
     
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    That quote is from a law from 1999. The purported events took place in 1993
     
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    Wrong! Nobody believed or disbelieved Ford until we heard her and Kavanaugh. Ford's accusations were credible, and Kavanaugh lied. That should indicate to anybody even moderately in possession of rational thought, and who is not a political cult follower, that her recount of events is immensely more likely.

    That has nothing to do with Biden though, because that was sexual assault. And if we follow your parameters, this was nowhere near that.
     
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    and how was Fords accusations credible? could she tell you where it happened? could she tell you when it happened? did she tell anyone afterwards it happened? does anyone remember it ever happened? and the three people she claims were there all said either it didn't happen or has no memory it happened hell Ford couldn't even tell you how she got home that night
    and what lie did Kavanaugh make and the evidence that proved he lied?
     
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    Why doesn't some adult conservative leader just say something like: "Society advances, and what was tolerated twenty or thirty years ago in the war between the sexes, will not be tolerated (among civilized people) now. We are not going to make an issue of this, since many males, Left and Right, live in glass houses with respect to what they did in the past. Making an issue of it forces our progressive friends to become hypocrites, and forces us to adopt their methods of political warfare, a bad thing for both sides. So let's discuss the issues."

    Like the "Governor Blackface" non-issue, this is pulling American political discussion even further down, if that is possible.
     
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    Reade didn't tell those people about the assault until years later. At the time, she was claiming sexual harrassment only. You do know the difference, right?

    I was comparing the one single, never repeated accusation against Biden as compared to the many against his opponent. Ford and Kavanaugh are not relevant to this election.

    Trump has established a pattern of behavior. Biden has not. Yet Trump's supporters are screaming about this one accusation against Biden while happily ignoring the many against Trump, and making all manner of excuses why those allegations do not require investigation. That's hypocrisy.
     
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    Biden has not?
    do you seriously want me to post pic after pic vid after vid of him fondling little girls touching women and smear thier hair bending over whispering into their ear? and that was all done in public him knowing it was being watched and recorded so makes you think what does he do when no one is watching

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    I went to parties when I was in college and I don't remember when or where they were.

    Yep! She went the next day to the local paper and published a story "I was raped last night"

    My God! Are you serious?

    Yes! She remembers it. And Kavanaugh remembers it, as shown by the fact that he lied about it under oath.

    What? You're telling me Kavanaugh and his accomplices denied remembering it?

    BTW, the only one who denied it happened was Kavanaugh

    This is the only sensible question in your whole post. You shold've stuck to this one only. It would have made you look better.

    Here

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/kavanaugh-vs-dr-ford-testimony-the-lies.542915/

    It's common for sexual assault victims to not remember details. But, of course, you won't read up on typical characteristics in sexual assault cases because it would completely destroy your case.
     
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    See comment 501.

    How else would any of us know about Reade or about Trump's many accusers outside of reading about it on a website or hearing about it on TV or radio? For the purpose of forums like this, links to credible websites are what we generally use to back up our comments.

    If you need to rate the veracity of a website, I recommend the following:

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

    Know the site's bias before you give them credibility.
     
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    False equivalence. None of those touchy-feely incidents had anything to do with sex or power. None of those people have ever charged Biden with assault. He's always been an affectionate guy, although after so much whining from the right and the left, he doesn't even do that anymore. Not everyone is a hugger, and many aren't comfortable with that kind of benign shoulder or head patting, but it is not sexual assault.
     
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    women have come forward and complained about Biden's inappropriate touching 4 as a matter of fact
    Biden accused by 2 more women of inappropriate touching
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-accused-by-2-more-women-inappropriate-touching

    and you can look at many of those little girls faces it clearly shows their discomfort of Biden's unwanted affection

    so yah there is an undisputable pattern with Biden enough to give credibility to Reade's accusation to go along with the all the other evidence
     
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    Yes, inappropriate touching is the term used in law enforcement to cover things like un-asked for shoulder rubs or whatever makes one uncomfortable. Biden was never a sexual predator, he simply didn't understand personal boundaries (he does now). There's a huge difference between that, and pattern of behavior exhibited by a sexual predator.
     
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    are you for real
    what people do in public will do worse in private you admitted it Biden didn't respect boundaries
    and when they are able to get away with a hand on a shoulder smelling hair they will keep pushing those boundaries so it becomes hand on your shoulder in public last week hand up your skirt in private this week
     
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    So many high level and "elite" Democrats (Clinton, Weinstein, Biden, Epstein) are sexual predators and molesters. If Biden is guilty and it looks like it could be, he needs to be properly investigated and indicted or he needs to reach a plea deal.
     
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    Ha ha. You are too funny man. Indicted, that’s a real hoot.
     
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    Glad to see you standing tall for those that sexually assault women. Well played.....Not. lol
     
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    I see no evidence of your claim. But 1993 is the issue at hand? There won’t be any indictment now. Wonder why she doesn’t sue in civil court anyways at this point?
     
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    You have it backwards. Predators go out of their way to keep their proclivities unnoticeable when in public. Someone as obviously affectionate with women, children, and men, like Biden, are never the ones we should worry about. Like Ted Bundy or William Gacy, the predators seem like normal, harmless, polite people in public.

    Sexual predators are sociopaths. The smart ones have learned how to behave and react like normal people, hiding the fact that they feel no empathy and that other people are there to serve the predator's purposes. Having been the victim of one as a child, I just don't see that pattern with Biden.
     

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