The Justice Department dropped its case against former national security adviser Michael Flynn

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Dutch, May 7, 2020.

  1. reality1

    reality1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2009
    Messages:
    1,482
    Likes Received:
    366
    Trophy Points:
    83
    From my observations in the real world, it most always comes down to what’s perceived as being most beneficial to the person giving the opinion. Brilliant isn’t it? Lol. Our youth are being taught to follow not lead in life. Blame is everywhere yet never any responsibility or accountability. Most that like Obamacare either benefit from it or think it’s a good idea because it helps others, those that don’t like it are hurt by it or realize it’s medical welfare for some paid for by others. It should always come down to what’s legal and permissible via the Constitution. I think we stretch the interpretation of that which is why we are where we are today.

    it’s like the Russia hoax. Every American should be mad and insisting On accountability. This includes grilling the media companies too as to why they were complicit in misleading the public. This should be an obvious non partisan conclusion, and yet, it’s not. I can’t explain it.
     
  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Messages:
    46,383
    Likes Received:
    15,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes indeed; the deep state encourages it's foot soldiers to break the law to achieve deep state's objectives.

    As for Obamster... allow me the pleasure to once in a while use funny labels :D
     
    AFM likes this.
  3. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    31,165
    Likes Received:
    28,635
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL... So, not just ambulances... Hearses too... spectacular.
     
    Crownline and Dutch like this.
  4. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

    Joined:
    May 31, 2015
    Messages:
    10,688
    Likes Received:
    3,816
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think you explained it perfectly.
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2020
    reality1 likes this.
  5. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Messages:
    46,383
    Likes Received:
    15,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    We'll see more of Obama and his minions coming out of their ratholes to accuse DoJ and Trump of what they themselves have done. Comes right out of Democrats' playbook.
     
    drluggit, BaghdadBob, AFM and 2 others like this.
  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,508
    Likes Received:
    17,474
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They are not charging Flynn with being a liar, they are charging him for lying.

    An interview with a misquoted by Barr FBI agent, corrects the record

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/10/...l?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
     
  7. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2019
    Messages:
    10,295
    Likes Received:
    13,169
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Flynn played chicken with a corrupt
    I believe it's more accurate to say- They are NOT charging him for lying.

    Because, you see, they're not. You must not have gotten the memo.
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2020
  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,508
    Likes Received:
    17,474
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This interview sets the record straight
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/10/...l?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
    Republicans are certifiable insane for supporting Trump, who has a long history of corruption, vile acts, just being and all around despicable human being.
    Stupid argument. Impeachment is not a criminal proceeding. There were many things Pelosi could have charged Trump with, but she chose to salient items because of time constraints. Abuse of Power and Obstruction are common impeachment articles, and not 'rediculous', what is rediculous is your characterization that it is rediculous
    Ridiculous. Funny how there are no Mueller Reports on Obama. The MR report resulted in what, 30 indictments or so? So much for "hiring the best people" everyone around Trump seems to be going to jail.

    Regarding the Access tape, your rebuttal is nothing more than a lawyerly trick. We know what is going on here. Anyone who hears that tape knows.

    You can't weasel out of it. Whether or not Trump brags, technically, about 'assualt' is beside the point, 25 women accuse him of it, and given his cavalier arrogant and misogynist comments, the likelihood their accusations are true are even greater.

    The right continues to put their heads in the sand. Sad.
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2020
  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,508
    Likes Received:
    17,474
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  10. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do you think that the judge is that corrupt?
     
  11. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Smear.
     
  12. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Mary McCord was not in the interview with Gen. Flynn.....

    Moreover her testimony before the House Intel Committee is clear....unless she was committing perjury there....when asked if there any evidence of collusion between the campaign and Russia...

    "I can't recall if there was information, any information or evidence at the time I left about conspiring to take part in the actual intrusion" - there was no Russian conspiracy....there was no evidence for Mueller to even be brought in. It was a hoax and they knew it back in 2016
     
    BaghdadBob and Zorro like this.
  13. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,671
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Projection !!!! ^^^^
     
  14. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

    Joined:
    May 31, 2015
    Messages:
    10,688
    Likes Received:
    3,816
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I didn't deny he lied. I deny that he is a "liar." One sin does not make one an inveterate sinner. I'm sure he's committed others, but he is more than that.
     
  15. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Messages:
    46,383
    Likes Received:
    15,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    :D
     
  16. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    36,671
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It’s not even clear that he actually lied about anything. The agents (one of which was Peter Strock IIRC) who did the original I interview did not think he was being untruthful. And they had the original tape of his phone conversation. IMO he has ensnared as part of the insurance policy. I am still very disappointed that Trump fired him.
     
    Le Chef and Thought Criminal like this.
  17. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,491
    Likes Received:
    52,064
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Weird how @Patricio Da Silva has failed to respond to those excellent points. Sad!

    HELTER STELTER: Fake News CNN’s Brian Stelter Melts Down Over Conservative Media Exposing Russiagate Conspiracies.

    Suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome, Fake News CNN’s Brian Stelter suffered an on-air meltdown Sunday over conservative media paying any attention to the largest spy scandal in American history.

    Fake News CNN led the media’s strategy of Firehose of Lies with Russiagate conspiracy theories distracting the country from preparing for the pandemic today. Now that new revelations have begun to fully expose the deep-state operations for what they really were, he is now mindlessly demanding a code of silence so not to reveal the grossly high level of Fake News media malpractice for the past four years.

    Setlzer Admits Befuddlement: “I find it befuddling.”

    Stelter doesn’t want to see it reported that after hyping up Fake News stories of Russian collusion with fake intelligence that a more than two-year special counsel investigation with unlimited resources found to be nothing more than an attempted coup by the Deep State. Dirty Bob Mueller's report only began to reveal the degree to which the Fake News media tried to lead the American people to believe their president was a Russian agent. After finding not one person on the Trump campaign, let alone Trump himself, working on behalf of the Russian government to subvert American interests, a damning inspector general report released last fall detailed 17 major omissions in FISA warrant applications to spy on U.S. citizens and now a treasure trove of earth-shattering new evidence in recent weeks have completely exonerated former National Security Advisor "Good Guy" Michael Flynn.
     
    Thought Criminal likes this.
  18. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,508
    Likes Received:
    17,474
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Mueller as appointed by Rosenstein, who was appointed by Trump. Take it up with Rosenstein.

    Personally, I never believed Trump actually colluded with Russia to thwart the election, however, there is evidence he welcome the help, on TV, he taunted Russia to do just that "Russia, if you're listing...." and this idea that he was joking is absurd. Whether he was joking or not ( and he wasn't, he was taunting Russia, by every reasonable standard when you listen to the tape ) it's proof that this man is unfit for the office. In fact, the Mueller reports reveal that Russia, immediately after that taunting, did precisely as Trump asked. That's collusion, collusion by stupidity if not by intent. No president in history would have done something so lame as egregiously irresponsible and reckless as that. And there is sufficient evidence of obstruction.
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2020
  19. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Haaahahahahaaa!
     
  20. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,508
    Likes Received:
    17,474
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The Federalist is not a reliable news source. No self respecting news org would begin a story "Suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome, Fake News CNN..."
    Only alt-right off the charts right wing sites do that. See, a legit news org knows what a thought-terminating cliché is, and would make it a point not to use them
     
  21. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,489
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Almost no demedia is reliable after the last three years of fake news.
     
  22. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,508
    Likes Received:
    17,474
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Barr maybe, but he's not upholding his oath of office, he's acting like the President's attorney, and that is not his job.
     
  23. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

    Joined:
    May 31, 2015
    Messages:
    10,688
    Likes Received:
    3,816
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No argument from me. I imagine he and Pence blew a gasket and wanted to put as much distance between Flynn and the Whitehouse as possible. Is there any doubt but that Flynn lied to Pence?

    On edit ... this is interesting:

    Vice President Pence said Thursday he was "more inclined" to believe that former national security adviser Michael Flynn unintentionally misled him in early 2017 about his contacts with the Russian ambassador, an event that triggered Flynn's firing by the White House.

    Pence told reporters while traveling in Indiana that he was "deeply troubled" by new documents released in Flynn's criminal case, describing them as evidence of "investigative abuse."

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehil...-he-is-deeply-troubled-by-flynn-documents?amp
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2020
  24. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,508
    Likes Received:
    17,474
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    "Fake news" is a thought-terminating cliché imparted into the brains of Trump supporters, which no legitimate should use in their arguments.

    As such, I will ignore any comment that resorts to similar clichés, "TDS" "Fake news", They are artificial devices created by a master manipulator
    pumped into the minds of Trump followers to a conversation. See, Trump doesn't want any one challenging him. As such, they do not contribute to the discussion, and they do not support any argument of any kind whatsover.
     
  25. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,491
    Likes Received:
    52,064
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You mean the Fake News Liars that were coordinating with the felonious classified leakers in the Obama Administration that supplied the failed Firehose Of Lies strategy that was supposed to fool the American People into thinking that Drunken Hillary should have won? You guys failed miserably and fooled few other than yourselves.

    And you are off topic, again, this is a FLYNN topic. If you would prefer to discuss a different topic, find the appropriate topic and post on it there.

    Transcripts Prove Trump-Russia Investigation ‘Was All Phony the Whole Time’ Says Good Guy Devin Nunes.

    In the past week, transcripts of House Intelligence Committee testimony from various Obama officials proved that they had no evidentiary basis for investigating alleged Trump-Russia collusion. It was all as phony as the framing of Good Guy, Michael Flynn.

    “We had a strategy here that we wanted to get every single person that we interviewed, to say whether or not they knew of any evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians,” Nunes said Sunday morning on Fox News’ Sunday Morning Futures with anchor Maria Bartiromo. “Furthermore, what you will see is that we’ve been asked questions about hearsay. Did they hear anything? Do they know anything? Do they have any leads for us whatsoever? And the answer was always the same. Nothing.”​

    We were right about everything, you guys were wrong about everything, starting with who was going to win the 2016 election.

    But, since you do seem to have some salvage value as a reverse indicator, who do you expect to win the 2020 election?
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2020
    mngam and Le Chef like this.

Share This Page