The Enduring Effects of Racism

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  1. Pycckia

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    They are white people, that is what is wrong.

    White people are always wrong. Black people are always right.
     
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    Looks like antifa. Far left has been booging some 2015.
     
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    Older generation of African Americans experienced Jim Crow Laws.

    In USSR, there was a milder policy against the Jews. During Brezhnev Era, they were discriminated in university admission and work. My parents got into University during the earlier Khrushev Era.
     
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    Oh look that group has more than my group, Mommy take their stuff and give it to me!

    Wealth accumulation occurs only if a person has the ability to delay gratification. If you take wealth and give it to people who are unable to delay gratification, they will be dirt poor in the matter of a few years. You might as well burn the wealth. Start teaching the delay gratification trait in inner city schools... really really drum it in..... make it the supreme goal.

    I have just given you a much better route to improving black wealth than blame whitey..... a much much better route. It made me a millionaire on an engineer's salary.

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    You wanted a fire. Look closer.
     
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    Hey hockeydad., Your quote has my name on it but i didnt say that.
     
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    How did it all go away for the Japanese? How does an immigrant from war torn Yugoslavia or any other country reach middle class status in just on generation? The opportunities are there. Are you taught by your leaders to take them or wallow in self pity.
     
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    If it's racism then why are Nigerians from Africa doing so well? Their skin is just as dark. They just don't have the self-pity culture.
     
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    Sorry about that. My bad.
     
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    Coherent thoughts are only seen as diarrhea by the intellectually blind.

    On top of that, my post isn't all that long. You are freaking out over my post, which is less than a thousand words, so what happens when you see a book? Do you have a panic attack? Just read the post and then respond coherently, it really isn't that hard.
     
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    White white people burn down buildings, they are simply having a very large bonfire, obviously!! It is only property destruction and a threat to everything Americans hold dear when it is done by people of color! Then I will light my hair on fire and shout aimlessly into the wind for Sean Hannity to save me!!
     
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    Just because a statement is "racist" doesn't mean it isn't true. You might be able to silence overtly racist statements with a sufficiently oppressive government, buy silencing me won't improve black kids academic performance. That is the whole gag behind systemic racism, also called "racism without racists."

    You are having to dig deeper and deeper to find racism to blame for failure of Black people to thrive (see microaggressions).
     
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    Why should people attempt to deconstruct racist views?

    There is a third option other than having a panic attack or deconstruction: one can embrace one's racism. It is very liberating to do so.
     
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    Sorry but none of this absolves the individual for their individualized actions or non-actions.
     
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    Great, more racist nonsense masquerading as semi-conscious thought. Do you know what the largest source of wealth for the American middle class? Their home. In fact, it accounts for about 2/3 of all middle class wealth!!

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...lity-largely-boils-down-to-housing-inequality

    So you can put your pennies in a jar all you want and avoid buying that tv you want, but that won't make much of a difference, except at the margins. Again, this is anti-statistical thinking. Start thinking statistically and you will understand that considering the statistics I cited above and the history of racist housing policy, the differences in the circumstances for black Americans were created by systemic failures. On top of redlining and other racist housing policies, there was also racist behavior practiced on the individual level when making housing purchases. Many white people refused to live near black people, so they either froze them out, or if they managed to move in, the white people moved away. This reality made it incredibly difficult for African Americans to build wealth through housing purchases. Which does an excellent job of accounting for the wealth gap in America.

    https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/5266...-of-how-the-u-s-government-segregated-america
     
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    As I pointed out, the educational background of a student's mother is the best predictor of academic achievement. So a highly educated Nigerian immigrant would be much more likely to have children who succeed academically than an African American woman who was denied access to a quality education.
     
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    I disagree with the notion that racism exists without racism. I think that almost every American is racist. They are racist as a result of growing up and being educated in a racist country.

    It is in fact incredibly easy to find the racism. I can simply read your posts and the posts of most of the right wingers who have replied to this thread.
     
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    As I have told others, stop with the simplistic morality tales, and start thinking statistically.
     
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    It is also immoral and despicable. So one can choose to embrace their nature, despite their nature being immoral, or they can work to deconstruct their racist views and work towards being moral.
     
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    Sure it is easy to find it here, but can you find it at Evergreen College?
     
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    Tell it to George Floyd's family
     
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    Doesn't everyone get to decide what is moral for one's self? That is what the pro-choice crowd claims.

    Stop with the simplistic morality tales.
     
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    What I stated has nothing to do with morality. It has to do with personal responsibility. Its a way of living. Not an emotional plea.

    Do you think that blacks can't educate themselves? Do you think that they can't be successful despite all those things you mentioned? Because your argument is nothing more than an excuse for those blacks that don't educate themselves and don't succeed. And it ignores all those that have educated themselves and have succeeded.
     
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    How about reparations for actual crimes?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre


    The Tulsa race massacre (also called the Tulsa race riot, the Greenwood Massacre, or the Black Wall Street Massacre took place on May 31 and June 1, 1921, when mobs of white residents, many of them deputized and given weapons by city officials, attacked black residents and businesses of the Greenwood District in Tulsa, Oklahoma. It has been called "the single worst incident of racial violence in American history." The attack, carried out on the ground and from private aircraft, destroyed more than 35 square blocks of the district—at that time the wealthiest black community in the United States, known as "Black Wall Street".

    More than 800 people were admitted to hospitals and as many as 6,000 black residents were interned at large facilities, many for several days. The Oklahoma Bureau of Vital Statistics officially recorded 36 dead. A 2001 state commission examination of events was able to confirm 36 dead, 26 black and 10 white, based on contemporary autopsy reports, death certificates and other records. The commission gave overall estimates from 75–100 to 150–300 dead.
     
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    Absolutely you can!! Do you think all those white hipsters shouting the loudest don't have racist thoughts? Of course they do, but they don't recognize that having those thoughts isn't in and of itself a personal moral failing, so they perform the loudest to hide their deeply buried racist thoughts. It isn't a moral failing to have racist thoughts in a racist country. It is only a moral failing when you realize you have those racist thoughts, to then embrace those racist thoughts.
     

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