The Enduring Effects of Racism

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  1. frodly

    frodly Well-Known Member

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    Again, stop with the simplistic morality tales and start thinking statistically. We aren't talking about individuals, we are talking about averages. On average, people who have educated mothers, tend to achieve academically at a much higher level academically. Similarly, people of a higher socio-economic status also achieve at a higher level. There are of course exceptions to those rules and of course people can succeed despite having to overcome more to achieve that success, but statistically that is not what is expected at the average.
     
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    frodly Well-Known Member

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    Please either provide or link to a moral or philosophical justification for racism. It doesn't exist. You can find them for general elitism, where poor people are looked down upon as morally inferior, in Nietzsche, Rand, etc. However, there are none of racism. When people try it never gets past the point of the naturalistic fallacy.
     
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    The rest of the propaganda screed was right out of the Marxist playbook.
     
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    I don't look down on Blacks as morally inferior. I look down on them as intellectually inferior.
     
  5. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    Quick! Tell us how many cities they have set on fire inside the United States. How many stores have they looted and then burned? Show us the BEEF! Oh wait . . . you can't; because none of that is happening. It is instead a subset of Marxist led leftists rioting, burning, mugging, and murdering in the name of Justice . . . and new Nikes.
     
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    You mean the fellow whom once placed the barrel of a gun against a pregnant woman's belly durring a home invasion robbery? The guy that the political Left elevated to sainthood? The fellow whom radical leftists set building on fire for . . . after looting them? That guy?
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1st Off - If you believe a house is an investment, you are likely never to accumulate wealth. I never believed such nonsense and few if any experts believe that either. Don't know where you got that idea, but it is a really bad one. (This of course excludes people who flip or rent out property.) .
    https://www.moneyunder30.com/why-your-house-is-not-an-investment#:~:text=Probably the single biggest reason,than it sounds at first.&text=That means that you can,to maximize your investment return.
    https://www.thesimpledollar.com/investing/real-estate/sorry-but-your-home-isnt-a-good-investment/
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/18/wealth-manager-buying-a-home-is-usually-a-terrible-investment.html

    2ndly - If I don't give a damn about my own brothers' wealth accumulation, why would you expect me to give a damn about the wealth accumulation of any group of people in America? I could care less. Cry me a river.

    3rdly - You expect me to believe that blacks can only succeed around white people... specifically racist white people (see red from your post). What does that say about your opinion of the competence of black people and their ability to achieve? If anybody inferred that I could not succeed unless I was around a group of people of a different ethnicity, I would tell that person to go eff themself. I can succeed around ANY group of people because I am damn good at what I do.... really damn good.

    4th - Wealth accumulation is almost solely the result of individual decisions. It is the reason why I started with nothing like one of my brothers and he is penniless today and I have several million dollars. I tried to give him good advice but he did not take it. Don't feel sorry for him though, he is one of the happiest guys I know. He doesn't have wealth but he has happiness and I would estimate that he has had a more fulfilling and enriching life than myself. Anybody who puts wealth accumulation as their number one priority can accomplish it but they will have sacrifice greatly for it.... maybe even their own happiness for it.

    Pro-tip: Buying product and getting excited about next product is the most surefire way to avoid wealth accumulation.
     
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    So? Look at all the cities currently burning. Aside from the Dem Party cynically making a political meal of this with their WOKE SJW and Marxist rooted Cancel Culture crap, the nation is fed up; and frankly doesn't give a damn any more about spoiled children with hurt feelings over ANCIENT injustices and a BURNING desire for looting.
     
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    Again, what I stated has nothing to do with morality. Additionally nothing that you stated here has anything to do with your OP. Which is about racism. Additionally your OP was all about morality. Yet you try and remove morality from the discussion?
     
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    No the guy who had a cop stomp on his NECK until he died because he ALLEGEDLY passed a twenty dollar bill
     
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    If you can satisfy the following conditions, I agree with restitution:

    1. A slave had his labour stolen
    2. A slave owner stole the labour
    3. The slave had a line of descendants that continues to today
    4. The slave owner had a line of descendants that continues to today
    4. The descendant of the slave owner has received an estate passed down through the generations from that slave owner

    In this case, I support the descendant of the slave (or indeed anyone subject to theft from long ago) getting the value of the stolen good back out of the estate.

    But I am firmly against this being done on a collective racial basis, or thieving from the descendant of a slave owner if these conditions are not met - for instance, if the slave owner left his descendants no estate, or if this line is broken between then and now.

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    Actions of states are different, applying this rule to states would seem to imply that almost every inch of land on Earth - including that owned by black nations, would be reallocated against the will of their populations.

    Instead I favor independence for localities that desire and declare it.
     
  13. Gatewood

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    You mean applying a police academy approved and taught restraint tactic on a fellow who was previously resisting arrest and then dropped to the ground and could have been faking having physical problems but that nonetheless the police officers promptly called an ambulance and then kept monitoring his vital signs while they waited? That event which the leftist allied media outlets promptly turned into a racism based murder on the political behalf of their DNC masters?
     
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    So much self serving pablum do little time. There were African Americans got rich when Jim Crow was at it's worst, there were wealthy African American businessmen in Atlanta before the civil war. As long as you carry a chip on your shoulders and look for excuses to fail you will fail. Aunt Jemima created the product and put here face on the box and became rich doing so. Sad you think it's demeaning. I'm sure her descendants think You're nuts. Racism isn't the problem a willingness to embrace shackles someone created for your distant ancestors and embrace the self defeating, self defeating prophecy of the leftist who prefer to use those chains you put on of your own free will to brow beat people who were wholly uninvolved with either you horrible decision or your ancestors misfortune, is the problem. You shame those who died that you might be free, the Tuskegee airmen the fifty-fourth Massachusetts, the 13th UCT, the buffalo soldiers, Harriet Tubman would be aghast at you. Fredrick Douglas and Booker T Washington would be appalled. They seized freedom in both hands, bled and died for it. And here you stand ready to surrender without a fight. Good Lord man the only one holding you back is you.
     
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    I would agree that might be so for a few generations but after 150 years?
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope, I’m not racist at all. It’s your side that are racist. And yes, if my kid was hurt and it wasn’t serious I’d tell him to walk it off. The world doesn’t have time for hurt feelings. But my kids don’t cry from little booboos, because I didn’t raise a bunch of fairies.

    my kids will be successful because they are driven hard chargers, that know the world doesn’t give a **** if their feelings are hurt. They know success is earned, not given to you because of same 200 year old wrong against their ancestors.
     
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    Well maybe if reparations were given after things like the Tulsa race massacre they wouldn't be doing that.
     
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    Grambling diatribes that go nowhere are only seen as coherent thoughts by the intellectually weak.

    More typing does not equal smarter.
    So you're rambling diatribe there even phoned in.
     
  19. Gatewood

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    Considering that Marxists are behind the BLM movement, probably not. As for reparations, countless Northern soldiers lost their lives freeing the slaves. Reparations therefore were given . . . in blood and dramatically ended lives.
     
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    There are racists everywhere but most of the racism I see and read about is blacks being racist. Payback, I guess.
     
  21. Cybred

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    War ended 1865, tulsa 1921, so yep still need reparations.
     

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