Oregon Sues Federal Agencies For Grabbing Up Protesters Off The Streets

This is jade helm only real lol
I’m calling it orange helm

 

Bullshit. Portland is in need of 1992 LA style troops. But we’ll see if your take on it plays out. Wanna bet on when the Federal Courthouse reopens under this half ass inept approach?

 

they all looked uniform to me. And the way LEOs are being targeted, why would any of them identify themselves on camera??? That would be dumb. All anyone needs to know is that the guys in the ACUs are federal law enforcement and they will enforce the law.

 

Another poster who does not believe in due process and civil rights. Jeez! Trump fans are revealing themselves to be supporters of Fascism we always knew they were...come out come out wherever you are.

 

Democrat-sanctioned riots



It would be less than accurate to say that rioters have taken over Portland, Oregon. Democrat Mayor Ted Wheeler turned the city over to rioters. They are his shock troops.

 

Terrorists in masks complain that police use unmarked cars to catch them committing crimes?

 

I remember when the AP falsely accused the Tea Party of violence.

Now AP falsely states violent rioters are peaceful protesters.

 

And that?

It's the thread.

 

~ Yes those were the days.1970s LAPD is long gone in liberalized sissy America. Daryl Gates was the last of the LAPD. By 1992 "Wee" Willie Williams was the appointed chief and the police department was politicised. You work with what you have.
I have the feeling Trump will get very tough if reelected. Personally I wish he would now ! He appears to be walking on egg shells.

 

I wasn’t referring to Gates and his LAPD which caused the damn riots to begin with. I’m talking about a serious professional response in Portland by the national guard as occurred in the 92 LA riots. Aside from Kent State, the National Guard actually have a pretty good record for stabilizing domestic violence and enforcing the rule of law with minimal collateral damage.

 

~ I believe only the governor can call in National Guard. The fact that they have not may have put the state in one hell of a civil liability situation.

 

Good lord. We are not allowed to sue for damages against the state or elected officials.

I’ve already worn out my posts on how stupid I believe this situation to be in Portland in this thread.

 

Except when the state/officials waive sovereign immunity. There are plenty of statutes in which states/ feds waive sovereign immunity.

 

I wonder if the case could go to the Supreme Court, and they would clarify whether the federal government using law enforcement for an ordinary crime within a state (including murder) is Constitutional.

It might fall under the Fourteenth Amendment, which was a drastic expansion of federal powers in ways many did not anticipate at the time.

 

Nobody but nobody can actually be that ignorant so I'm not taking the bait. And especually when the answer to your ridiculous question is already in the OP.

 

As a matter of fact, Sweet Potato Hitler is using this as a distraction in order to deflect attention away from his colossal sociopathic response to the pandemic.

 

That's how I see it too

 

Most of the violence seems to stem from the police and the many agencies detaining the protesters.

Yes, the lawsuit would be the evidence. If you feel the agencies are all innocent then you would have no issue with this going to court.

 

These people weren’t arrested. They were picked up and held without charge then released.

Do you think that’s ok?

 

~ I wonder why the state would do that ? I hear there is a law group looking into the Seattle liabilty issue. Those innocent business/property owners are owed compensation. Perhaps they should ask for "reparations" ?

 

Lots right? Why is it a problem here? Assuming that they're actually unidentified.

 

Hate to break it to you but the violence was happening for 47 days before Trump sent those people in. And I don't see police going around throwing M80's or bricks or molotov's at people, buildings, vehicles etc etc. But hey, tell me, what actions have the police in Portland done to deserve these riots? What actions have they taken that as "escalated" riots? Simply detaining people? Cops are SUPPOSED to detain people that throw molotov's, explosives, and destroy property. That's their job.

A law suit is not evidence of anything. Anyone can file a law suit for any reason what so ever. And the problem I have with the suit is that it is a political stunt. Nothing more. And its a political stunt that defends rioters. If the mayor wasn't using this as a political stunt and provided actual evidence for her claims I would support a law suit. But she hasn't. She's called what's going on in her city "peaceful protests". They are not like ANY peaceful protest that I have ever seen or even read about. Peaceful Protests do not do this:

 

Sorry for the double pictures in that post. Not sure how that happened. There's only supposed to be 4.

 

Actually you can sue the state. I can give you an example of it happening right now if you wish?

 

Didn't you know? LEO's are allowed to pick people up and hold them for up to 48 to 72 hours (depending on State/Fed law) for questioning without charging them. After that then they must either charge or release. Has been happening for longer than either of us has been alive.

LINK: Find Law: How Long Can You Be Held Without Charges?

And yes, I do think that is ok. Why? Because some times questions must be answered. Provided your lawyer lets you talk. Most lawyers won't of course. Good on them. (the best lawyers are the ones that will get you out before the 72hrs is up) But that doesn't change the facts.