With RGB gone, the election dynamics change, radically, methinks.

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    SCOTUS is front and center now.

    How does this change the election dynamics?


    Let's discuss.
     
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    this does make less reason for Republicans to vote for Trump, but the damage is done, won't matter who wins in November
     
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  3. Patricio Da Silva

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    Oh, it will matter, but it might not matter insofar as who is appointed. There will be a big fight, though.
     
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    I do not think there is any way dems can stop the Senate from pushing a SC Judge through before January

    so even if Trump loses, he still gets to pick - because we know Republicans won't want the voters to pick
     
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    Let's see if he has the votes.
     
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    If Trump plays this right it could give him a boost. If not it could hurt him.

    That's the long and short of it.
     
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    The Anti-Trump GOPers love the idea of a Conservative-majority SCOTUS, and will have no problem reversing their "Not voting for him" stance to make it happen.

    RBG's death has made this a whole new ballgame. I think we are going to see some serious reversals in the poll numbers.
     
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    It does, some people will not be voting for the candidate with the best proposed policies that will impact our nation and our future. They will be voting for who they think might be the next justice for the SCOTUS.
     
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    Normally I'd agree that we should wait until after the election, but... the major reason we may want to fill the vacancy on the SCOTUS, is because of how insane the Democrats are becoming, even before the election. I don't think we want to see an even 4-4 split decision on very important and historic election matters.

    It's just common sense, with such an insane left wing in America looting and rioting even now. We have state courts and governors simply changing election laws on the fly.

    For example, in PA the governor is taking it upon himself to no longer follow the law, which states the signatures on mail-in ballots must match the voter's signature. And the court has decided to ignore the law which says mail-in ballots must arrive at the polls on election day, and extend it another three days. Talk about allowing for fraud?!?! That is nuts, They don't have the authority to draw a black Sharpie thru election laws, and bypass the State legislature.
     
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    Darth Vader Ginsburg's death is excellent news for Trump. It is going to refocus Republicans and some right leaning rust belt independents on SCOTUS decisions. Trump needs those independents to win.
     
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    Democrats do not have anything to do with looters and rioters, they are criminals who should be prosecuted.

    Given Dejoys warnings about mail in ballots being delayed, there is nothing sinister about allowing an extra three days, what in heck is the matter with you? Dont you want all the vote counted?

    There is NO evidence of widespread fraud that could remotely have an impact on the presidential election.

    The vote has nothing to do with looters and rioters, they will nave no impact on the election, except for dishonest republicans using it as fodder.

    But, lying is something republicans approve of:

    they approve of this epic propaganda meister.




    And republicans are hypocrites, this is what they said when Garland was nominated:

     
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    Trump nominates someone next week. Game over.
     
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    Is that what you think independents believe?
    Even leftists don’t really believe that lie.
     
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    I hear right wingers post this crap all day long, about 'left wing looters' as if the left condones looting, and is part of a liberal strategy.

    It's a lie, and it's propaganda. I'm really sick of it.
     
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    But Democrat mayors and DAs refuse to allow the criminals, from BLM and antifa, to be arrested, and are letting them go free without charges or bail.

    Don't try and claim BLM is not supported by name, by elected Democrats. I don't hear Harris/Biden condemning BLM or antifa, even when their leaders say looting is supported, or they chant "pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon" or "death to America," or "burn it all down." In fact Harris has said they should just keep protesting, doing what they are doing.

    It's not what the law says, it it? The courts and the governor cannot make changes to election laws on the fly. They tried this in FL in 2000, and the SCOTUS had to stop them.

    While I can say mail-in ballots allow for a greater possibility of fraud, that's just an opinion. However, taking away a major tool to validate a ballot, like not tossing out a with a ballot signature that does not match the voter's, that is just complete insanity. You want a sure way to discourage faith in the accuracy of vote tallying, then take away a major tool for verification. If we are not bothering to check signatures, then any scrawl on a ballot sure encourages fraud, because the mechanism to prevent that type of voter fraud was tossed aside.

    Add this to the tens of thousands of mail-in ballots already invalidated by states, during the 2020 mid terms, and we have the potential for a million or more votes to be invalidated in Nov. Not to mention how many ballots with fraudulent signatures might flood the system. It's a made to order fraud scheme on a massive scale, just ready to be made legal. How can you say they are fraudulently cast ballots, because the signatures are invalid?? If ballots cannot be invalidated because the signatures don't match, then no one will even bother to check them. So any hurried chicken scratch scrawled on a ballot must be accepted as valid. That's nuts.

    This is what happens when states use a very turbulent political year to make changes to election laws. So we are supposed to cast aside the one verification tool, just because the state rushed thru new changes and voters have not had the time or opportunity to go to the DMV and get their signatures on file, or have them updated.
     
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    BLM leaders do say looting is simply reparations, and they are supported by Democrats, the NBA, NFL, etc...

    If you oppose looting, then jail the looters, don't let them go without charges because "They just got caught up in the emotion of the moment," and turn them loose. Which is what some DEMOCRATS in government are doing.

    You don't want looting, then allow the police to stop the riots and looting, and not take away their non lethal means to stop riots. Which is what some DEMOCRATS in government are doing.

    You don't want looting, and your police are severely out numbered, call in the National Guard and restore order, don't allow a CHAZ zone in the middle of your city. Which is what some DEMOCRATS in government are doing.

    So don't give me this crap that Democrats are not going soft on looters and rioters.
     
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    30% of the people who voted for Trump, did so for the courts. All those people are back in play, and back in Trump's camp. That should give Trump the electoral math necessary to win...
     
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    Yup. End of story. Trump will likely nominate a squeaky clean conservative female. It will be a quick confirmation and dems heads will go running to their local hardware store for matches and pitchforks to burn and riot their own cities to the ground.

    Congressional democrats will call Trump every name in the book and try and impeach him again. They are calling for violence already...

    My crystal ball says the American people are beyond fed up and disgusted with the lawless do nothing democrats and WILL stop this insanity on election day. The democrats are going to be facing a 2nd term of Trump and many lost seats.

    Landslide.
     
  19. Patricio Da Silva

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    Biden said they should be prosecuted. I agree, all democratic leaders agree.

    You've got outlier republicans who are members of the KKK

    So cut the crap, the fringe of either group does not represent repubs or dems.
     
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    Don't ignore the possibility of the TDS afflicted Republicans. Remember how McCain campaigned for years about how he was going to repeal 0bamaCare, and then when it came time to cast the deciding vote, the TDS afflicted, John "Ahab" McCain, from hell's heart he stabbed at Trump; for hate's sake he spit his last breath at Trump, and voted "no." Leave it to TDS afflicted Romney to make up some lame excuse to not follow the Constitution and cast the deciding vote to kill any appointment, for his own personal and political revenge.
     
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    Biden called out BLM members by name, or did he make some vague reference to generic violence in a general sense, without any specifics?
     
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    I don't see it. Hating Trump is a very separate thing than a generation of conservative rulings. That is something that comes along rarely, a 6-3 court would almost guarantee that liberal nonsense would never survive challenges at the highest level. The McCain thing was sleazy, then again, so was McCain. Romney isn't stupid, he'd see the long term value of conservative court. Anyone who still stood against Trump on this issue, should just go join the DNC, they have no place on the right...
     
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    the biggest thing is it has highlighted some of the left’s true plans...suck packing the court with leftist activities, creating new states...now that we know their real goals it’s even more important not to vote for them
     
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    huh? outlier GOP members that are in the KkK? who?

    the only famous KKK members have been dems...Byrd comes to mind
     
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    ****ing bullshit.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ondemned-violence-linked-protests/3317862001/
    Top Democrats told Black Lives Matter activists to steer clear of violence
    Multiple high-profile Democrats have spoken out against violence at Black Lives Matter protests, sparked by the death of George Floyd at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer in May.

    Democrats do not support violence, and anyone who says they do is intentionally not telling the truth. I'd use the other word, but this ****ing forum won't allow. it.

    You're talking 'fringe'. Well, the KKK are filled with republicans, do you support them?
    Would you be miffed if Biden went around claiming republicans are KKK ?

    Cut the crap.
    Signatures are checked, they have tracking codes, there is no evidence of widespread fraud. This is not a problem. The greatest problem, which is to the actual benefit for republicans, is the spoilage rate is higher in poor neighborhoods. It's much higher than in person voting. Republicans should be welcoming mail in voting.
    Evidence, please.
    There is no evidence of massive fraud. Signatures are checked.

    If you have evidence, provide it.
     

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