Yes, I think I'll get it. I wasn't going to get it because Trump rushed it, operation warp speed and all. I wasn't going to get it until enough people had time to be guinea pigs, as one poster on this thread already stated. But I changed my mind. Funny how I changed my mind once I knew a Democrat was going to be in charge (Joe Biden). Now I just want this nightmare to end. Although, with limited supply, I might be in the back of the line anyway.
I'll wait for the Moderna, I have allergies. As someone that remembers the bad old days, I love vaccines. They are one of the great achievements of civilisation.
Hmm.. about the meme... In my head I hear the scene from Big Lebowski (starts at 1:00) This is not Nam, we got rules. Wear a mask! Am I wrong? Has the whole world gone crazy?
You aware the resources in hospitals are guaranteed to be limited? They are at the limit as we speak even though restrictions work with combating how fast covid spreads. If there wouldn't be any restrictions, than there is a guarantee that people simply will die due to lack of staff in hospitals and room in the ICU. That number is not in your equation at the moment. What also is not in the equation is that the year 2020 as a lot more deaths than current covid numbers explain. Obviously the under reporting is MASSIVE.
I thought I'd wait until all the CEOs (and their families)of all the drug companies producing the vaccine get inoculated.......then wait a few weeks and see how THEY are doing .
I'll pass. While I am in the high risk group with several autoimmune issues, the reasons for passing are those very reasons others saying I should get the vaccine. I've fought to find a health balance with what I deal with daily. I'm not going to muck it up by injecting a barely tested, all reactions not known and the producer can't be held accountable vaccine. I take my precautions and avoid the worst of places that people may share what they've got, cold, flu or virus. If the COVID finds me, so be it. Until then, life goes on.
FoxHastings said: ↑ I thought I'd wait until all the CEOs (and their families)of all the drug companies producing the vaccine get inoculated.......then wait a few weeks and see how THEY are doing . I'd love to but I don't think that's really going to happen....and even if it did do you think any negative effects would go public?
FoxHastings said: ↑ I'd love to but I don't think that's really going to happen....and even if it did do you think any negative effects would go public? Oh? What are they and who's reporting and what are the long term effects? BTW, I was discussing CEOs of drug companies....are you saying they got vaccinated and reported the effects?
?? There has been reporting on negative reactions, the only thing to get much attention is the bad allergic reaction some have. I have bad allergies, btw. How the hell could we know the long term effects? That's just dumb. On one side we have the potential for millions of deaths, on the other we have the vaccines. There is only one sane choice.
True... unless it was that one big bad 'negative effect'. Surprised they let the anaphylactic be known.
I wish there had been a "wait-and-see" option in the poll.... There wasn't, so I couldn't vote. Based on what we know today (which could be completely overturned tomorrow, of course), I'd vote for taking the Moderna vaccine -- especially now that it becomes clearer that one of the 'little people', like me, wouldn't even be able to get it until around April or May. Cynically, this affords me around four months to see how lots of OTHER people are reacting to all these vaccines, and how effective they may or may not be. But, straight up, even if the Moderna vaccine or any other vaccine were available to me this afternoon I wouldn't be 'the first kid on my block' to rush down and get it! I'll get vaccinated eventually, but, no, not right away....
I take it the moment I can get it. Side effects are mild. Some of the shots I took made you sick for a few days. People with sever allergies have always problems with medications and vaccines.
Yup as soon as I can I'm going to get it. Buuut I can just hear the 2050 infomercial for the class action lawsuit "If you or a loved one received a vaccine during the Covid 19 pandemic of 2020 and were diagnosed with cancer you may be entitled to compensation"...
HERE is my original post....address it and quit shooting off in all directions... FoxHastings said: ↑ I thought I'd wait until all the CEOs (and their families)of all the drug companies producing the vaccine get inoculated.......then wait a few weeks and see how THEY are doing . BUT, BTW, I said we don't know the long term effects....NOW why is that "dumb"...why is it "dumb" to state a fact????????
Which assumes you can find that out. Not that it matters, anti-vaxxers will be writing fiction and some will believe it.
They must have half expected it. After asking your name, the next question is do you have any allergies? If you carry an Epipen, you’d mention that you have an allergy, especially with new medications or vaccinations.
Not initially, no. Part of the why is availability. Part of it is that getting the vax doesn't exempt you from all the mask wearing and such and part of it is that I distrust new vaccines. I will give it some time to be properly studied to see what the real long-term complications may be. I used to be 100% for vaccinations until Gardisil came along. Have heard too many stories about that one, not from conspiracy websites but just with chatting with people who had someone at their school or in their family really get turned inside out right after that shot. I believe there is something to that one being swept under the rug as "injection reaction" by the FDA.
I wear a mask 8 hours a day plus a face shield, it is absolutely no fooking big deal. Even if I am vaccinated, I would do it, till the pandemic is over. Just to set a example. I have been vaccinated against 11 diseases. Some of the shots in the 70s made you very sick for a few day or a week. Tetanus, the first ones, they kicked your arse to kingdom to come. 10 years old and could hardly move for several days. Farm boy, needed it because of the live stock. Pocs, the cuts in the upper arm took weeks to heal, huge scars, 66 the second dose, because of travel, puked for a week, 74 third, military, 1 week cold sweats and so on and so on. No reaction to the shingles shot, or to my 5 year tetanus booster. The vaccines of the earlier times had all side effects which would not be tolerated today. But they all did they jobs, protected and eliminated the disease. We had to have a international Vaccination Passport, UN Vaccination Passport, to travel abroad. Its use ended in the early 80s world wide, because all those horrible diseases had been defeated. Last time I had to present it was in 79, traveling to Nicaragua. When I get my Covid shot I want it in my UN Vaccination Passport. I still got mine.
Good for you, but that doesn't change my position. I still get sick for a day or 2 from a tetnus shot, but that isn't relevant to my decision here. I want to know a shot is safe and effective based on actual results. An emergency approval by the Trump FDA relying on the word of the manufacturer doesn't cut it for me. I have more faith in the AstraZeneca jab than I do the Pfizer one right now and it will be awhile before it is widely available.
For me the decision is a no brainer. I live in a county which is at over 600/ 100.000/ week. My job brings me daily in contact with the virus, people and peoples cloth. My chance to catch the virus, if I slack, is rather good, similar to health workers. That's the rate in my branch of business. I take a mRNA, because their Phase studies have gone without a hitch. The old fashion, based on a host virus have all had problems and do not show the high quality of protection.
It's been known what them negative effects are. And you're wrong. They don't cause allergies. People who extreme forms of allergies get the full experience of the negative effects. Nothing odd. When you look at any prescription drug, it simply comes with a good amount reactions. Heck.. I had crap shot in me that had as a disclaimer that it could cause temporary baldness and losing your nails. and I just went skipping though that valley of the saddow of death.