Sidney Powell presents fraud vote case to Atlanta federal court.

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  1. pol meister

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    Yeah, it's how I'm able to see the fraud that you can't see. It's your hyper-partisan bias that blinds you.
     
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    You're kidding yourself pal, and your bold letters and coarse language aren't going to change that fact.
     
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    Really, tell me what hyper partisan bias I have, besides the brain question.

    Or is it the other way around, the last stand of the looser, which I am sorry to say is rather pathetic.

    But please show me some evidence, for the fraud.
    Real serious evidence, not kindergarten or brainless crap CTs.

    Come on brother, show us what you got, time to drop your pants
     
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    No, your RW sources have you wrapped around their purse strings. They're playing you for a gullible person who will believe what they say even though the facts are arrayed against them, and you can't tell the difference apparently. I stated the facts and you have no reply other than "nope. nope. you're wrong. nope". Pretty weak defense. In fact, couldn't be weaker.
     
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    IOW you see it in your imagination. Isn't that special. You haven't posts one item of evidence yet you cling to your fantasy. egad
     
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    You misunderstood the tangent I was on. But no, I neither possess nor have I seen any proof of massive fraud. Differences aside, I am prepared to accept Biden as our next President. Even though I am 100% pro Trump, I will not participate in ripping our country apart, as it would only do great harm and accomplish nothing.
     
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    Interesting, being Trump supporter you probably want Trump to fight back against China which is destroying our country, yet you are willing to let the left rip our country apart and destroy it without fighting back.

    You do understand that they wont' stop, right? They will continue dehumanizing and smearing the opposition (including you) as racists and white supremacists, they will continue shoving their extreme and ever evolving PC down our throats, they will keep rioting and burning and looting if things don't go their way. The next republican president will again be spied on, sabotaged, impeached, his supporters will be harassed, shut down and canceled.

    Turning the other cheek does not stop them, it encourages them to double what they are doing, it does not save the country from being ripped apart, it lets the left rip it apart faster.
     
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    Is there a central clearing house for conspiracies? I'm having trouble keeping up with them all.
     
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    I pretty much agree. But you aren't disputing the election. You are disputing the Democrat platform and strategy which has been their evolving position for decades. It isn't new. We had an election. Both sides presented their case. And the majority of Americans chose the Democrats. That's how our elections have worked since our nations birth, with a winner and a loser. Sometimes it is best to back off and surrender the field....to cease the war in our minds and find peace in living. Remember Solomon's baby? The real Mother relinquished her hold out of love for her child. This is the difference between loving and coveting. It is the exaltation of charity and the making of giants.
     
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    I see it in the results. It's like opening your safe and seeing all your valuables stolen. You can't prove they were stolen, yet you know they were.

    As to evidence, hundreds if not thousands of "sworn affidavits" have been filed alleging voter fraud in the 2020 election. That itself is evidence that fraud occurred on a massive scale. I see the evidence because I look for it, you don't see the evidence because you close your eyes to it.
     
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    The proof is overwhelming from thousands of sworn eye witnesses. The thing speaks for itself.
    And everyone knows that the DP rigs elections.
     
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    Thousands of sworn eyewitnesses. Have you seen any sworn testimony contradicting them? ;-)
    This election was obviously and very clumsily rigged.
     
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    If any of those supposed but unproven sworn affadavits had merit, they wouldn't have been rejected by so many judges in so many state and federal courts, many of them Trump appointees.

    Trump got beaten. Period. Your side lost this time. Please try to deal with that reality.
     
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    No, it's evidence that alleged fraud happened on a broad scale, not necessarily massive fraud. It could be minute fraud on a broad scale. "I heard", "I saw", and "could be", isn't the same thing as "here it is". As for back dating late ballots or the decision to count late ballots, it is more of a judgment call than fraud. As long as the people are real and the ballots were actually cast by them, then it isn't fraudulent as much as it is stretching the clock or window to allow for all interested parties to have their say. Granted, it wouldn't be kosher. But it's not entirely out of the bounds of reason. Show us that people who voted one way were logged another way. Or show that people who didn't vote were logged as voting. And show those in the tens or hundreds of thousands, and you would have an undeniable case. Likewise machines or software fiddling with the count to a large degree. Or show a network of people involved in election fraud. Ferret them out and name them.
     
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    Wow. You probably also think saying I saw someone shoplift is proof they shoplifted, requiring conviction and penalty.

    The affidavits that have been studied have all proven to be pointless opinions lacking hard evidence. In one case there was a video of election workers counting ballots and opening crates of ballots to count, and the narration was over-the-top excitement, accusation, suspicion, and unfounded assertion of it being a "crime", and all they were doing was counting the ballots as they were supposed to do.

    That is why the affidavits have been thrown out..... NO EVIDENCE.

    Get an attorney to certify the affidavits and submit them to a court and see how it goes with a republican attorney and a judge appointed by a republican. Or maybe you have seen that happen. We all know it has. REPUBLICAN officials can't find solid evidence of fraud, yet you continue to rant about it while having ZERO evidence.
     
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    Bullshit and bullshit. "Sworn eyewitnesses" must be proven, and cross-examination has shown them to be opinions lacking evidence BY REPUBLICAN JUDGES AND ATTORNEYS.
     
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    Broad scale or massive scale, does it make a difference? You don't get thousands of sworn affidavits of fraud if it's only "alleged", but instead because it was witnessed, and because it occurred.

    I find your post to be of a particular "stick my head in the sand" quality, absent of any useful purpose, other than to serve the interests of voter fraud.
     
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    Sworn affidavits are testimonial evidence in a court of law. Do you have any evidence to show that a single one of them has been disproven?
     
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    He said it once and he said it plenty often and loudly enough. Chanting and harping isn't necessary when you have the facts on your side.

    Here are FACTS: All the elections were clean and perfect, according to Trump's own DHS Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency [Chris Krebbs], and also according to a host of GOP State Election Officials, who happen to be Trump supporters, in states Trump lost.

    Lying about supposed fraud, and calling our electoral system a, "fraud," and labeling America worse than a third world nation, as Trump is doing, is not an attack on the Democratic Party. It is an attack on the United States of America. Shame on anyone propagating that anti-American BS!
     
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    The great difference between minute fraud on a broad scale and massive fraud on a broad scale is self evident. It's the difference between raining bird shot and boulders. Furthermore, affidavits of suspicious activity are not evidence of fraud unless you can present the evidence. And affidavits are not evidence. For now, Trumps case is all talk. From what I've seen, they've used the standard irregularities and smattering of fraudulent ballots which happen in every election, as a segue to a world wide conspiracy without a lick of proof. That is a bridge too far. Fwiw, I'm a 100% Trump supporter. So I don't take this position lightly.
     
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    The legal burden is on the Plaintiff to prove their case, not for the defendant to disprove it. Sworn affidavits are mere statements. Not facts. Stating I am your God, even in a sworn affidavit, does not make it so.
     
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    That was funny. Here's who runs your so-called "Cybersecurity Agency:

    - Amazon Web Services
    - Dominion Voting Systems
    - Election Systems and Software
    - Hart Intercivic
    - Microsoft
    - SCYTL
    - Smartmatic​

    Those are the agencies that orchestrated the voter fraud, so not surprising they would claim there was no fraud.
     
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    Sworn affidavits are testimonial evidence in a court of law. Do you have any evidence to show that a single one of them has been disproven?
     
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    Already told you the burden is in the plaintiff to PROVE everything. Not the defendant. Otherwise you would have to disprove my claim that I am your God. Can you? Retain much?
     
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