Anti-vaxx protestors closes largest vaccine site in USA

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  1. VanCleef

    VanCleef Well-Known Member

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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You'll only read what they want you to read...

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WHO/status/1234095938555260929

    Remember this? Don't worry though, they'll protect you.
     
  3. VanCleef

    VanCleef Well-Known Member

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    That was like the first month, when we were still learning. Acting like studies 1 year later are all wrong is a bit......nutty.
     
  4. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So we're they mistaken, or did they lie, in your opinion?

    Because, I'd say the latter, but I'm sure you believe it was an honest mistake because experts, I don't know, didn't know how a virus spreads, I guess.

    Here's a study that says lockdowns don't work. Peer reviewed and published.

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13484

    Does Biden know lockdowns don't work? Or is he just ignoring the science?
     
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  5. VanCleef

    VanCleef Well-Known Member

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    Clearly mistaken, as studied came out new information was obtained and verified. There is a time line of events and time line of studies.

    This is no mystery.

    I'll read that, but this conversation was about vaccines and herd immunity. I have seen no contradictory studies on that.
     
  6. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    FYI, that's why with covid they are doing tracing to help identify.

    I guess you can't or won't answer about accountability :)
     
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    1/3 of the Black Community has been polled to not want the vaccine. They actually have a decent argument with what Democrats have done to them in the past (Hello Tuskegee). I think your claim is quite dubious.
     
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    I've been saying that for months and and months. While Democrats said the opposite for months and months.
     
  9. VanCleef

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    My claim was based off of data.

    Oh and,

    L.A.’s Dodger Stadium vaccination site blocked by anti-vaxxers, far-right (tampabay.com)

    According to this paper there was far right groups in there. No mention of left wing groups.
     
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    Also doesn't help that the dems spent all of 2020 bashing trump officials especially the FDA and CDC and suddenly in November they do an about face on them to push the vaccine
     
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    You have yet to define what 'accountability' is.

    Firing squad?
    Financial penalty?
    Social ostracism?
    Public flogging?

    I don't know about you, but innocent until proven guilty is pretty damn important in society. They cannot 'prove' that one specific person infected another with a virus unless the one infected had no external contact for 30 days while in a sterile environment, and then only had contact with a single source.
     
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    Doctor, have you forgotton about tracing to help identify the source of the spread, if so, I suggest you review our posts.
     
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    Read your own post^^^. HELP identify. Not absolute.

    So if you plan on penalizing someone for something, you better be able to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    And you still haven't answered what 'accountability' is.
     
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    Its crazy to think that people holding signs could shut down such a large operation, but it is Los Angeles. A slight drizzle can shut down anything run by our local government.
     
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    Wow a Trump supporter doesn't understand accountability :)

    BTW, your questions are not about accountabilty, those are punishments :)
     
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    So you believe the government won't force people to get vaccinated? Schools won't discriminate against teachers, janitors, administrators and students who refuse to get vaccinated?
     
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    I believe that during the pandemic you will be restricted, after the pandemic it will be back to the way it was - religious exemptions and all

    remember, Trump declared a national emergency and declared himself a war time President over this pandemic, so I guess we are at war with the invisible enemy like Trump said, once the war is over, things go back to normal
     
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  18. Montegriffo

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    Also, are they willing to go to the back of the queue for treatment when they get ill because they refused to take the vaccine?
     
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    You start off with an incorrect presumption, and your result will also be incorrect.

    The purpose of accountability is to direct guilt. If you cannot prove the guilt, there is no accountability.
    When someone is guilty of a situation which you consider negative, accountability is a method of allocating punishment.

    Something you may eventually understand, that not everyone who disagrees with you is a 'Trump supporter'. As in the wise words from the movie The Sting, know your mark.
     
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    I know several teachers, my wife used to be a teacher's aide. There are some in the school district who do not want to get vaccinated, the majority is scrambling to get the vaccine asap. I haven't heard of any discrimination against ones who refuse the vaccine.
     
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    Anyone actually blocking the travel of others should be arrested. Thats not legit protest. Ima go out on a limb here and guess that the 'blocking' part is being highly overexaggerated.
     
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    Ahhh the flat earthers - haven't heard from them in a while.
     
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    The purpose of accountability is to direct guilt.
    Is that what you say to your supervisor at work.
     
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    I don't have a 'supervisor', but you apparently want to try and take this to a personal level. How quaint.

    Please read the following definition of 'accountable'. Then return to High school, and hold your English teacher accountable for your lack of knowledge.
    accountable
    [əˈkoun(t)əb(ə)l]
    ADJECTIVE
    1. (of a person, organization, or institution) required or expected to justify actions or decisions; responsible.
      "parents could be held accountable for their children's actions" ·
      responsible · liable · answerable · chargeable · to blame · reporting · subject · under the charge of · bound to obey · obeying · bound by
    Have a middling day.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Accountability is not guilt unless one does something wrong. "parents could be held accountable"
    See what I bolded. If you want to blaze your own trail, I expect you to take repsonsibility for yourself.

    Apparently you are taking everything personally.
     

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