The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

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  1. dairyair

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    An armed insurrection is not the way to change the system.

    We The People have the power of the vote to change the system.
     
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    You can't change a system through control centers that have self interest to serve.
     
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    I wish I agreed with you.
     
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    They have plenty of money, no doubt, but just because they do does not mean they are part of some cabal against the American people. That's a tell-tale sign you believe some of that Q bs.
     
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    Q is a convenient excuse to discredit distrust in the government. And when considering that it went completely silent after the Capitol protests, that makes it look like a psyop.

    Considering how easily about half of the populace is being lulled into thinking this was sedition, the psyop was very effective, much like how 9/11 was exploited to get Americans to accept the growth of the surveillance state. This more recent psyop will be used to allow the government to hunt down Trump supporters.

    I'm sure you're fine with all this because you think you're safe, but this is how a lot of people think when their government starts spiraling into authoritarianism. Ironically, a lot of the same people who called Trump authoritarian are fine with this.
     
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    Do you hear yourself?
    Dictator, North Korea.
    Trump tried to give your country back to you and you rejected him.
    Now your going to see what it’s like to be under a dictatorship.
    You probably still think the masks are only temporary.
     
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    Look at Trump's first three years and tell me how he subverted the Constitution of the United States?
     
  8. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    We've gone over this before sir--I don't believe known liars and career bureaucrats but you do. C'est la vie.

    Trump is no paragon of truth telling, but the facts are obvious regarding electoral fraud.

    The icing on the cake is that the courts and the mainstream media have swept it under the rug.

    The cherry on top is that mere discussion of the topic IST VERBOTEN on many sites.

    The cherry on top is the blatant censorship of the topic.
     
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  9. dairyair

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    Sorry. I don't get brainwashed. I don't belong to cults. I can figure things out for myself. don't need RW radio/tv giving marching orders. Or LW media either.

    My country was never take from me. I didn't need it given back.

    You think covid was planned and masks is the 1st step to control us. Pulease.

    I have been correct all along with you belief in multiple conspiracy theories. Are you sure a mainstream social media platform like this one is best for you?
     
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    Look at the last 1 yr about stolen elections well before election even started.
    Look at the subversion after Nov 3 culminating in Jan 6, 2021. What he did in the past, doesn't give him a pass for the present.

    And he did nothing the 1st 3 yrs that amounted to squat.
    Mexico build wall? No
    Repeal and replace ACA? No.
     
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    You believe known liars. That's why you seem to back conspiracy theory stories as if they are true.

    No 1 single person in the world has proved election fraud. Not a single person.

    AG Barr, there was not enough fraud to change the election outcome.
    Krebs, this was the most secure election in USA history.
    50 state election officials, R and D on those commissions, certified all the election results. And the governors of all 50 states signed the certification.
    Mike Pence, over saw the EC vote process certifying Biden as the official president of the USA.

    Correct, we've gone over this before. And I've given you this evidence of no voter fraud based on trumps people own admission.
     
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    I believe in facts not conspiracy theories. No I do not think covid is a conspiracy theory. I do believe that politicians, ALL politicians will capitalize on any situation they can, and yes that includes controlling you.
    Funny how you think you are free:
    You vote for the candidates they LET you vote for, who then pass laws that you HAVE to abide by.
    You have ZERO control over what they vote for including giving themselves the best healthcare for free and generous pay raises every year, while passing down adequate healthcare that you HAVE to pay for. Not to mention free healthcare to illegals who have broken the law to get into this country in the first place.
    You break the law and they’ll put you in jail.
    Yup your really free.
     
  13. dairyair

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    Nope. It doesn't included me. I most often vote against an incumbent. I don't believe anything any politician says, it's all taken with a grain of salt.

    You can NOT believe in facts. There has not been 1 fact the election was rigged. Repeat, not one single fact. So you definitely believe conspiracy theories. One trump himself started feeding months before the election even happened. He knew he was losing.

    I am free. As free as we can be in a society.

    You are correct, I have no control what they vote for. It's why I often vote against incumbents.

    LOL. You think it's wrong to be put in jail for law breaking. Wow.

    Now, go one believing conspiracy theories.
     
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    No, I believe whistleblowers and dissenters. I don't believe known liars and corrupt individuals like Bill Barr. He made clear his loyalties to the deep state way back in Iran Contra. I was paying attention then, but it appears you were not.

    You are very easily led, but that's OK
     
  15. dairyair

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    Barr was hand picked by trump. I bet you believed most of the stuff Barr said over his time as AG. Except for that 1 thing.

    Did you believe the whistleblowers in the 1st Impeachment who were in the know about the Ukraine story(s)?

    I bet you didn't.
     
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    What the hell are you talking about?
    I said you vote for who they let you vote for.
    I said nothing about Trump, or a rigged election.

    I pointed out you vote for who they allow you to vote for, who then dictates what new laws you have to follow.

    ... and what is this “You think it's wrong to be put in jail for law breaking. Wow.”
    I said under biden illegals will be living next door to you enjoying free welfare after already breaking the law.

    You really shouldn’t drink n post my friend.
     
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    Your reading comprehension is very low.
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Yeh, you're just too stupid to understand that the Dear Leader is incapable of doing wrong, better get with the program
     
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    No, I don't vote for who they let me vote for.
    Read what I said. I vote most often against incumbents. Often even 3rd parties. Not who they say I can vote for.
    And at State and local levels it can be anyone.

    Who is they.
    Now do you think they chose trump? Who they let us vote for? I doubt you do. So that also proves your point wrong.

    I see, you think illegals get free healthcare. LOL. About the only free healthcare they could receive in an emergency. So you believe in another conspiracy theory.

    And if it's illegal for them to be here. It is also illegal to hire them to work. And no one goes after the illegal employers who hire them and put them in jail either.
    Some of trump companies were caught having illegals working in them. And no one went to jail or was even fined or fired for hiring them.
     
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    No, it's quite high.
    Your sentence structure must be what is really low.

    But I take it you have no argument. So now it has to be about me.
     
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    Can you answer my question or not?
    You made the claim you believe "whistleblowers and dissenters".

    Or you going to dodge and deflect to my reading skills. When I clearly asked you a question directly related to your statement.
     
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    Apparently the threat of billion dollar lawsuits makes them act a little more responsible.
     
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    Apparently we live in different countries.
     
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    Okay, so you're not an American. Care to tell us where you live?
     
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    Wow, you are a mess of contradictions.
    You never (until your last post) said anything about 3rd parties.
     

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