Derek Chauvin Murder Trial is on

That's another thing, ANYONE can get passed a counterfeit bill, can't they? Are you normally even arrested for it? After all, you're as much the victim as anyone else. Now if you're trying to pass a hundred of them to a bank then yes, you got some "splainin" to do, but if it's just one, don't they just try to trace it?

If that happened to me I'd want some sort of explanation as to why they're taking my money and hauling me off to jail too, but then again I'm white; I'm not used to police trying to arrest me for existing.

 

If you are legally parked while you are drunk and the police find you they will arrest you and charge you. The car doesn't have to be moving they will not just simply let you go. And if you have just passed a counterfit bill...........there was NO just letting him go so stop with that canard. And they did not approach him with salons drawn they correctly pulled their firearms when Floyd refused to exit the vehicle and keep hisbhands where they could see them.

 

So he was less passing out when the officer had his knee on his neck for nine minutes?

 

I have no problem admitting that Floyd had compromised himself with drugs. I am not a professional, so I don't know if Floyd would have died from his ingestion of those drugs. But I also have no problem (because my eyesight is pretty good) seeing a man with his knee on the neck of an unconscious man. I don't understand the purpose of that.

 

I have expressed my view on this trial in a different thread

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/on-derek-chauvin-and-sofia-gelberg.586599/

 

So the girlfriend did drop a bomb.

All they sympathy about "he was calling for his mother"
"Mama" was what he called his drug abusing girlfriend.

 

Okay - so a man is passed out in the car. Which would suggest he is compromised in some way. So wouldn't judgment suggest that holding a knee on the neck of a handcuffed man who had just been in and out of consciousness wasn't a great idea?

 

What don't you understand about the previous 29 minutes? How about the ME interview stating the was no neck compression that killed Floyd.

 

The gun was drawn before he was asked to exit the vehicle. You make up "facts" as you go along

 

I do not know, may be those cases were not politically/racially charged.
This case have widespread publicity as well as riots ("protests") supported by local governments.
Jury might be afraid that local government will prosecute them and may be allow crowd to kill them.

 

Yes and that could have contributed to his failing heart.
I bet he did not go to doctor and did not check his heart for a while.
My theory is that his heart was failing due to drug abuse and his exercises exacerbated a long standing heart problems.

 

Not much a bomb, because he probably called his mother "mama" too, as do millions of other people. Lot of people call all women "mama", but when you are near death, you are probably referring to your mother. Obviously we'll never know who he referred to, so we'll just have to go with what makes most sense (mother).

 

If his heart were that weak, he would not have been able to weight train.

 

One thing I wonder is how much of this type of **** has been going on until now. ALL cops should have bodycams and they should be on 24/7. The cameras and the recording time are cheaper than dirt nowadays

 

I think so, restraining raging person always looks ugly from the bystanders' point of view.
There was absolutely nothing illegal in the police actions.
Derek Chauvin did not block Floyd's airflow, his knee was placed on the side of the neck for restraining purposes.
His omission was, that he did not detect that Floyd passed out, but that because he was relying on the officers behind him.
I do not know what Chauvin could have done differently and no one made any suggestion on what Derek Chauvin could have done to keep the head of George Floyd intact.

 

Castillo and Eric Garner are two cases that come to mind

 

Floyd offered no resistance at all during those nine minutes. We saw in the video that Floyd just sat on the floor before he was placed in the police car

 

I guess because he would not go to the gym after consuming drugs.

 

The county medical examiner overseeing George Floyd’s case in Minnesota ruled his death a homicide in a report released Monday.

“Cause of death: Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression,” according to the official report by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office.

“Manner of death: Homicide. How injury occurred: Decedent experienced a cardiopulmonary arrest while
being restrained by law enforcement officer(s),” the report said.
Official ME report rules homicide in George Floyd's death (nypost.com)

Please note this is the NY Post - not Times. And this ME Report is NOT the one commissioned by the Floyd family. You were saying?

 

Detect? The other officers checked the pulse, and said there was no pulse, but Chauvin kept the knee on his jugular for another 3 minutes.

He could have taken his knee off the the neck when the heart had stopped pumping, and try to revive him. I think that is beyond obvious to most people. He chose to keep the pressure on, which is why he is standing trial today.

 

AFTER they had approached the vehicle and he was refusing their orders to show hands and he was reaching inside the vehicle apparently now trying to hid the drugs he had on him.

 

What are you talking about? He trained at home. And what exactly is it you "guess?"

Nobody's heart gives out because of a minor scuffle with police. Such an idea is absurd.

 

The Medical Examiner unbiased interview with the FBI makes that cyrstal clear in that interview which I have posted several times now.

 

May be. But Floyd has consumed a lot of drugs before fighting four police officers.
That is a lot of load.

 

You said he refused to exit the vehicle was the reason for the gun to be drawn. They did not ask him to exit the vehicle