The talk blacks should have with their kids

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  1. trickyricky

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    Yes they do. I had it as a teenager, I gave it as a parent. And it didn't just apply to cops. Elders, teachers, anyone due respect or with legitimate authority.
    In fact, if my dad had found out I even talked disrespectful to a total stranger, well; let's just say it didn't end well for me.
    It's called being a decent person, and it applies regardless of race, creed, or religion.
     
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    Somewhere around 20% of the population of the US has no religious belief. But in prisons, less than 1% of the population has no religious belief. Obviously religious people are far more likely to commit crimes than non-religious people. A statistic that holds up when one considers that the less religious parts of the country tend to have a lower crime rate.
     
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    we should all be against bad cops

    but we should also expect citizens to treat cops with respect, they are just doing a job - telling your kids the things mentioned in the op is something most parents do regardless of race...
     
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    Resisting arrest is not a violent crime.
    Really stupid. But not violent. Unless the officer is attacking.
     
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    No, No, No, Physically resisting arrest is rightly considered a violent crime and felony in most States, and is the common theme in many of these cases involving cops.

    Let’s look at the recent case of Dante wright, who was supposed to be tasered. Much of the media is falsely spreading the narrative that he got pulled over and shot because he had an air freshener blocking his mirror. The reality is he was legitimately pulled over due to expired plates. Then after he was pulled over, it was found that he had a warrant for his arrest due to not showing up to court concerning a robbery while using a gun. Then while the officer was doing her job and rightfully trying to arrest him, he physically(violently)resisted arrest, by fighting being handcuffed.

    Apparently if minority parents are having this supposed talk with their kids on how EVERYONE should act around cops it isn’t working.

    My biggest take away in many of these cases , is thugs physically, which by definition is violently resisting the police and then being supported in many cases by an equally agenda driven, corrupt media is by far the biggest problem. Not fighting with Cops, no matter what color you are, should not be such a hard concept for anyone to understand and follow.
     
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    In other words, Wright was not "wanted" for aggravated robbery, as Kirk claimed. Although the case remained open at the time of Wright's death, there was no outstanding warrant related to it.

    There was, however, a bench warrant related to a gross misdemeanor weapons charge, stemming from a separate case. Lead Stories has covered that case before. See our story here.
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    https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/...ht-was-not-wanted-for-aggravated-robbery.html

    You and I have a different opinion of violent.
    But our opinions don't matter. The law has a definition.
     
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    Your title is ''racist'' and specifically biased , I am sure unintentionally .

    The talk all parents should have with their children , is more politically correct .
     
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    You didn't have this problem before LBJ and the 'Great Society' AKA welfare handouts to the Democrat Plantation. I would venture to say that the main reason black parents don't have this talk with their kids is that a lot of the kids don't even know who their father is.

    We don't have systemic racism in this country, we have a systemic cultural problem in the black community.
     
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    It's called "systemic" racism because it's ingrained in nearly every way people move through society in the policies and practices at institutions like banks, schools, companies, government agencies, and law enforcement.
    ...

    Here are 26 charts that show the stark differences between the Black and white experience, because of systemic racism.
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    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-...-and-is-especially-high-for-black-americans-2

    The system racist laws have been outlawed since the 1990s or so.
    But mind sets don't change easily.
    Often it takes at least 3 generations to weed out ingrained mind sets.
     
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    America's Long Overdue Awakening to Systemic Racism

    ...

    Just before 7 p.m. on June 1, a deployment of local, state and federal forces, armored head to toe in riot gear, unleashed rubber bullets and sprayed tear gas onto a crowd of peaceful demonstrators gathered in the park to protest under the mantra “Black Lives Matter.” Moments after the crowd was forcibly dispersed, screaming as their eyes burned from the gas, President Donald Trump strolled out of the White House flanked by senior members of his Administration, triumphantly holding up a Bible so the press could snap a few photos.
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    In 2015, in the wake of unrest in Ferguson, Mo., just half of Americans said they believed racial discrimination to be a “big problem,” and, in 2016, only a third considered black Americans more likely to suffer from police brutality, according to Monmouth University polling. Today, by contrast, more than 75% of Americans say discrimination is a big problem and 57% understand that African Americans are more likely to suffer from police violence than other demographic groups are, a recent Monmouth poll found.
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    https://time.com/5851855/systemic-racism-america/

    Mindsets take generations to change.
    Laws changing were only the 1st step to changing systemic racism.
    Recognizing it exists is the real path to stopping it.
     
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    Nope. A far smaller percentage of Caucasian kids don't have dad's in their lives.
     
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    It's sad that, apparently, many of their children don't listen to them. In case you don't know, white parents can and should have the same talk with their children; there is nothing special about it.
     
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    There must be something special about it. The OP only references black people.
     
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    I find the exchanges we have here at PF fascinating. One camp see systemic racism and the other says its a sham. One sees the injustice of people being killed by police and the other supports the police, no matter what. The latter sees the beliefs of the former as MSM mind melding. Really, there is no common ground.
     
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    Whites are losing power on the USA. And they are not going to go down without a fight.
    Even though, the country keeps growing. More jobs are created. Whites don't populate the country fast enough to fill the jobs and very few Whites are migrating to the USA anymore.
    So to fill the jobs, those needing work migrate here and they are not White enough for some.
     
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    While I applaud your reasoning, it just brings up the question of which religion dominates conversion among the prison population? -cough- Islam -cough. Oops!?! It looks like that missing 20% of Atheists finds God (Allah) but quick!
    Religion in United States prisons - Wikipedia
     
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    Simply because there are too many lies being told and it’s obvious to anyone who actually is interested in the truth. Just takes minimal effort.

    Twice as many whites are shot by cops than blacks are? How much airtime does MSM give those white victims?

    99% of cops are good, they are the ones who protect us, the ones you and i and even people within blm call when we need them. We expect them to confront criminals, to protect us. Why demonize them 24/7? Look at what has happened in past year, crime up everywhere, directly correlated to calls to defund police.

    So msm and progressives want to portray cops as racists and lie about cops killing blacks frequently. All lies... unarmed black men getting killed by cops is extremely rare. Around 20 of them a year, out of millions of arrests and thousands of altercations. There are thousands of cops assaulted a year, msm doesn’t mention that, why? Many cops get killed a year, see below video, where is msm’s coverage of this:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/ga-police-officers-recovering-shocking-133233966.html

    Why does the msm want to talk about bad cops when 99% of them are good, protect us? When we point to black on black crime, we are told ‘vast majority of blacks are not criminals’ so what’s the point? The point is you all make a fuss of the minority of cops being bad but don’t want to talk about the minority of blacks who are criminals? You also want to talk about white supremacists when the vast majority of whites aren’t white supremacists. So you want to have it both ways - talk about the minority ‘bad’ apples in this group, but not the other group.

    Do you realize that BLM was birthed out of a lie? ‘Hands up don’t shoot’ was a lie, mike brown assaulted the cop, this was later shown to be the case. So imagine that, the whole movement started based on a lie

    You have a movement which claims they care about black lives but only the very few killed by cops and not the many more killed by blacks. Any sane and smart person would recognize that the real epidemic is black on black crime, not cops killing blacks (most of who resist arrest). Thousands of blacks killed by blacks, only a few killed by cops. When we bring this up, we are told ‘not the issue, issue is cops’ but there is simply no way to justify the non-stop attention of the rare black man being killed by a cop and the 0 attention given to a much much bigger problem facing blacks - black on black crime. We see all this attention given to lifelong criminals hailed as heros, who resist arrest and even act violently but no attention to innocent lives taken by a horrific epidemic on the streets of inner cities, blacks killing each other like their lives mean nothing, children gunned down all the time.

    When people like me analyze all these facts (which anyone can research) i can only conclude all this is basically race hustling, race baiting and nothing to with black lives or police brutality. Is is a power grab, a way to justify more crime without being policed, a way to go after white people for past offenses they didn’t commit. It is built up hate based on origins of slavery but hate misdirected at the wrong people. It is all a movement to attempt to change the power structure, it starts with destroying law enforcement, weakening it. Ironically, to the detriment of black lives. If anything, the rise in crime from all these efforts to weaken policing has affected black lives more than any other lives, which sort of proves that our suspicions are true. Blm doesn’t give a darn about black lives, this movement is racist at it’s core and this is the agenda.

    When the MSM and BLM start actually speaking truths, recognizing that black and black crime is a much bigger problem than police brutality, care about all lives (white on white, black on white, black on black etc..), recognize that vast majority of cops are good and protect us, recognize need for better parenting... then we can have more productive dialogue. In the meantime, we will continue to lash out at these racist, hateful movements which are the very opposite of what they claim to be.
     
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    I'm white and my daddy taught me to follow orders and not get in a pissing match with cops. You were saying?
     
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    First off, i doubt that.

    But lets just assume you are not telling stories....

    What % "found" God in prison?

    I got 4 years in prison over 20 years ago. I know you have no clue what you speak of, just more of your bigotry.
     
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    Do you have a basis for the above? The qualifier 'seem' does not make your assumption any less unsubstantiated or illogical. Whatever assumptions you make what the hell is "those rules" and do share your quantitative analysis that led to this conclusion.
     
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    I find your over simplification most boring. You project your own rigid constructs on others.
     
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    The pretext of the thread was a classic example of someone who felt the need to single out and lecture only blacks. This Hebrew says if you took out the word black and put in Jew and said it to me I would have told you to kiss my not so kosher tukas. What a pathetic attempt to justify passive aggressive bigotry.
     
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    you are right, i’m lecturing the hateful, racists who don’t care about black lives. Their actions factually have led to more black life suffering.. the liars, racists, bigots, marxists... who’s agenda is eliminating law enforcement so more crime can be committed and attack white race for what people did in the past (hundreds of years ago), under pretext of social justice.


    You are absolutely correct.
     
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    It's hardly complicated. The crime statistics (including resisting arrest) show that felony crimes are committed about 4 times more frequently by black people than white.
    That will bring them into contact with police more frequently as well. The simple social value of not committing crimes and of respecting people as well as law and order os sore;ly lacking in the black community. That's not a factor of them being black, it's a factor created by the parenting and role models they have.

    Here's one example, felony assaults. blacks assault whites at a rate 42.7 time greater than whites assault blacks. What kind of "talk" do you suppose the parents of those people gave them?



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    It really pretty damn simple, if a policeman pulls you over, stop, and put your hands high on the steering wheel. Then when the policeman tell you to do something, say yes sir and do it.
     
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