Trump's criminal associates. HOW could you have voted for him!?

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  1. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He had a date set of May 3rd to pull out which Biden chose not to keep.

    You forget Trump reduced Troop levels in Afghanistan.
     
  2. Lucifer

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    Is that supposed to be an excuse?
     
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    How about paying a foreign intelligence agent to create a fake dossier about her opponent for president and then using said fake dossier to initiate a campaign of surveillance on that opponent.

    How about that for starters.
     
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    Which he never did, but thank you for summarizing the complete ball of bs that suckered conservatives.
     
  5. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Given Trump's presidency was an epic failure[/QUOTE]

    You ignore all of Trumps acomplishments and refuse to admit Trump did do good on our southern border. Alot better than Biden.

    Trump had more votes than any other Republican in my lifetime. I would not call that a epic failure.
     
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    He was running against "The Big Guy" of the Biden Crime Family that uses Hunter as it's bag man.
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So his family has double standards. We are not ok with that however Trump himself did temporarily bring back manufacturing.
     
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    Actually Biden and Hunter did just that... and that is no BS...

    Here is some of the
    U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and U.S. Senate Committee on Finance Majority Staff Report...

    https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Report_FINAL.pdf

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    You're the guy who claimed that a Florida County police department was preparing to take Trump into custody so that he could be extradited to New York to face felony charges. I told you that you were out of your mind, that no such thing was going to occur. Well, here we are the "Big Indictment" the "Thrill Kill of Trump" and no charges against Trump or his family members, just small fry crap that is normally handed with civil fines. What a let down for you, you had such high hopes!

    Hopefully you have learned your lesson about blind sourcing, though, with all the blind sourced lies the Fake News Media has hosed us with for the last five years, no one is going to accuse you of being a fast learner!

    What do you think?
     
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    Yes, he set the date for after he was not going to e in office. Why did he not do it during the 4 years he was actually the CIC?

    But not before he added in more...

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  11. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He has a good point you know. Australia is far from perfect.

    How is a prime minister better than a president? They are the same thing.
     
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    The POTUS does not control such things.

    And it was very temporary, even before COVID...

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    Iv'e addressed it, and debunked in numerous posts going back a few years.

    Everyone had more votes, so that cancels out the accomplishment of more votes. Besides, he lost.

    Getting votes doesn't equal success at being president, all it equals is success at getting elected.

    Just because someone is a grand self promoter doesn't mean he or she is going to be a successful president.

    No one denies Trump's ability to sell himself, or his products. Funny thing, though, most of his 'products' have failed.

    the only area where he has been successful at is putting his name on buildings.

    His ability to sell other operators that his name would add value to their building, that is a testament to his ability to promote himself.

    But that unique talent at self promotion doesn't necessarily translate into the ability to run a large corporation or country, for that matter.
     
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    You could not pay me a million dollars to vote for Hillary. Not going to happen. Next time pick a better candidate.

    Joe is not much better than Hillary but between him and Hillary I would pick Joe.

    Trump was a result of nobody wanting Hillary.
     
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    Not even close to the same thing. The PM has far less power than the President in most countries.
     
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    And Biden was the result of nobody wanting Trump again
     
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    That doesn’t explain Trumps popularity and draw. Trump outdrew Obama when Obama ran.
     
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    Let's say you have two friends. You think both were pretty awesome people. Then one of your friends gets arrested for say....rape. Does that mean you stop being friends with the other friend or that friend should stop being friends with you? Apply the same to say 20 friends where half get arrested. Do you stop being friends with all 20? Or just the ones that were arrested?

    Point is that its wrong to blame an innocent person for the actions of others that happened to be friends with that innocent person.
     
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    Maybe he was expecting to win again and wanted to not rush things?

    I honestly never expected a man who had rallies for 10 people and claimed he was running for the "Senate" to beat Trump but the media really turned many against Trump. They sure had the propaganda machine rolling.
     
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    So he added more to send a message to back off and it worked. The Taliban realized they had to negotiate or the war would never end. Trump did reduce troop numbers after a peace agreement.
     
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    I never said he controlled anything. He lowered corporate taxes and sent a message he wanted to bring back manufacturing. Trump had over 400,000 manufacturing jobs return. Far more than Obama ever saw.
     
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    What are the names of the dozens of men and women that you are tlking about and what relationdhip did they have with President Trump.

    I guess you have never heard of Hunter Biden and the Biden crime family who is owned by the Communist Chinese?
     
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    So they rely more on Congress? How is that better if one party has a majority in Congress?
     
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    Whataboutisms are what an elected representative government are all about. People do not run in a vacuum So yes, the other candidate matters. So yes, who is running against Trump matters.

    Like most Socialists, your arguments and comments come from fantasyland.
     
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    Partly true but he still had over 70M votes.

    Trump was very popular with conservatives.
     

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