Texas 6-week abortion ban takes effect after Supreme Court inaction

Volume is inversely proportional to sincerity said at the top of his voivpce lols!

 

Yes, if you want babies, you should be responsible for them.
If government want babies, they should be responsible for the babies too. It's really that simple.

Yeah and that's how you force pregnant women to give birth. Don't pretend it isn't so. That's just dishonest.

By the same logic if the state doesn't want to be responsible then don't meddle.

Having control over your own body, instead of state, is absolutely a right.
Sadly, we've established that Texas government doesn't believe that. They believe they should have control over women's body.
So, they should be responsible for that control.

5 year olds are human beings that exist independently. Fetus in womb is not.

 

if the government's running around asking people to get pregnant and have babies then yes but that's not what they're doing.

nobody forces women to give birth that is a natural progression of pregnancy. It isn't forced by the state.

agreed they shouldn't meddle. Forbidding abortion is removing meddling.

so no government should require a covid vaccine?

Also you have the right to control over your own body you don't have to get pregnant there's no requirement.

again they're not forcing women to get pregnant so no they're not.

I would argue that fetuses are human considering nobody's ever given birth to a non-human before.

 

It is forced if the state intervenes.
Laws are like violence. The threat of the punishing consequence forces you into behaving a certain way.

No, forbidding is meddling the woman's right to control her own body. Women should have control over their own body. Pregnant or not.

As for the vaccine argument. The thing is, women getting abortion or not does not harm other people.
The only reason vaccine would be required is if the lack of it harms people.

If covid wasn't so deadly and wasn't so contagious. There wouldn't be talks of vaccine requirement. It would truly be like flu vaccine. Optional.

Again if women are threatened to do this or get punished by law, they are being forced.

By biology and by law they are not human beings.

 

See my previous post since you're just repeating yourself and not saying anything new I don't have to either.

 

The correct thing to do would be invest heavily in our youth (would class education and healthcare) and promote pregnancy prevention — and safe access to abortion is unfortunately necessary.

Unfortunately the pro-birth crowd want none of the above.

 

I believe when a fetus is viable outside the womb it should be protected unless there is a major medical issue.
Medical removal and revocation of parental rights should be an option at this point.

It is a bad decision all the way around, but we have tried banning abortion outright before — it didn’t go well.

 

You would force a woman to carry her rapists fetus to term?

What would you like the law to do if she self terminates the pregnancy?

 

Impressive display of your real agenda.

Did you really just say you would give your vote to kill the children of all Democrats?

And you people wonder why we think y’all are fascists, there’s your sign. Steps away from full fledged Nazism.

 

The best thing is to provide cheap easy access to Long Acting Reversible Contraception


Contrary to popular perception it is NOT teens getting abortions


Only 12% are teens - the rest are older women and 60% already have one child. Just by offering an implant post birth we could easily reduce that 60% statistic

 

BTW, the detection of a fetal heart means the fetus is alive.

Side note: A mother would know when a fetal heart is detected because the mother would be in the room when the fetal heart was detected. To whether there's the possibility the mother is pregnant before the fetal heartbeat test, I think she can figure that one out.

To carry a living fetus to term and then having it adopted is a permissible and worthy outcome.

 

No it doesn’t

the heart muscle has “automaticity” which means it can beat by itself

six weeks is NOT long - many women have irregular periods and it is not uncommon for “spotting” to occur during the pregnancy

 

Your claim is demonstrably and objectively false. If your claim is true, then please explain to me how if you assault that woman going to go get her abortion and she loses her fetus due to your assault, you can be charged with murder for the death of that fetus but she can’t be charged with murder if she went through with the abortion.

Is it a life or not? If it is, she should be charged with murder for abortion right alongside the person who assaults her if she loses her baby. If it’s not a life then she can’t be charged with murder but neither can the person who assaults her and causes her to lose her baby. You can’t have it both ways. Is it a life or not? Because as of now it’s wholly up to the whim of the mother.

Don’t worry. I’ll wait.

 

That’s because they’re using it as a form of birth control.

 

Sure! The unborn Victims of Crime act was yet another attempt to do an end run around RVW

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act

but the bottom line is abortion is waaaaaay more complex than most realise. Are you going to prosecute the woman who has to have an abortion because she cannot stop bleeding? Has sepsis? Developed a life threatening illness? How about the woman with a WANTED pregnancy who discovers the foetus is irredeemably malformed?

 

You do understand that something like 95% of all abortions are done as a form of birth control and have NOTHING to do with rape, incest or medical issues.

I have no problem with abortion for rape, incest or medical issues that risk the life of the mother. I do have a problem with abortion as a form of birth control.

 

Oh! Dear Gods! I knew there would be at least one!

Do you personally know of any woman stupid enough to choose a waaaay more expensive, inconvenient and uncomfortable option over a cheaper easier one?

 

And just to clarify if a woman is within the timeframe that she is legally allowed to have an abortion and not be charged with a crime, then you believe someone who assaults her and she loses her fetus should not be charged with murder. Right?

 

Wtf are you talking about? I’m happy to source my claim for you.

 

Not a problem.

https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/journals/3711005.pdf

93% due to birth control. Only 7% deemed “hard cases” which is rape, incest and medical problems. The rest is birth control.

I’m sorry. You were saying?

 

So what? You plan on prosecuting the unwanted unborn fetus by killing it.

 

Oh and btw that’s the guttmacher institute. Which is planned parenthood’s research arm. Even your murderers admit the VAST majority of abortion is for birth control.

For the record most studies put it at around 97% of abortions used for birth control. Your murderering planned parenthood puts it at around 93% so I’ll be nice and let u have that number.

 

Link please ( ooooh! Boy! Am I going to enjoy THIS!) Rubs hands

 

I did it’s on the last page.

 

You plan on explain how YOUR a laws are so screwed up?