Texas 6-week abortion ban takes effect after Supreme Court inaction

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  1. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/01/politics/texas-abortion-supreme-court-sb8-roe-wade/index.html

    I think reasonable minds can differ on the topic of abortion. But I’d like to believe that most conservatives would agree that an anti-abortion law without an exception for rape is patently retarded. So if your daughter happens to get raped in Texas, you better hope she doesn’t get pregnant because otherwise she’ll have to carry to term. Does this it sound insane to anyone else?
     
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    Plan B is available at almost every drug store, including Walmart. What are you jamming about?
     
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    So, the next day is okay, but after 6 weeks the rapist wins? That make sense to you?
     
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    That is the next target in Texas, to get it banned.
     
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    I don't want to delve into the reasoning, but I'm interested in how they arrived at the heartbeat. Seems very arbitrary to me. Why not a functioning liver? Or pancreas?
     
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    According to whom?
     
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    Why do people lean on this appeal to emotion.
    Most abortions aren't the result of rape so it seems disingenuous to constantly lean on that emotional manipulation.

    But I'll put it to bed. If it's wrong to kill a fetus it's wrong regardless of how it came to be.

    Do you really think people who think it's wrong will make an exception?
     
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    If you got raped, wouldn't you take it as a prophylactic anyway? Just in case?
     
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    Right because they are just meanies trying to control people by asking them to control themselves.
     
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    I think you've exposed what the underlying cause of these appeals really is. The folks who believe in abortion do so because they insist on their own ability to impart purity in their offspring. Rape gives them the excuse to introduce a legal means to accomplish this with. This is what the tired Eugenics mantra is all about.
     
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    Not all women can take plan B and plan B doesn't always work.
    So we'll put you down for forcing a raped woman to carry her rapist's baby.
     
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    One hopes you feel better having written this. It certainly isn't the case, but at least you vented.... small wins.
     
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    You realize there are about 16 million American women who have mental health issues in this country - issues that include
    higher sex drives coupled with decreased ability to assess risk. So forcing a mentally ill woman to carry to term (which means
    she will have to go off any medication she's on because those meds increase the probability of birth defects) is OK with you.
     
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    Your evidence of this is ....
     
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    You can pretend that your stance is not about forcing a mentally ill or raped woman to carry to term, but you are just fooling
    yourself.
     
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    Well whenever you see this argument made destroy it by simply asking the following.

    If it's about rape would to be okay banning all abortion except for those terminating a pregnancy from rape? They will say no making the appeal to it meaningless.
     
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    Would you support a law Banning all abortions except for in the case of rape?
     
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    Or worse, given the argument DL is now floating, metal ill women can't be trusted or allowed to procreate, and seem, from his commentary, to need to be protected from that.... Talk about a horror show.
     
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    So would you support banning all abortions except for women with mental illness?
     
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    Modify the question.
     
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    Strange on the multiple threads on this topic no one has linked to the actual law.. Under CNN and "Texas Law" there links lead to other CNN articles and not the law itself.. One has to wonder why they do not want their viewers to be educated on the matter...

    They even took the time to "update" the article but no mention or link of the actual law..
    This story has been updated with additional details.
     
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  22. Daniel Light

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    I recorded crime scenes for 9 years - one of the worst was a 16 year old girl who killed herself because she was raped
    by a family member and impregnated and torn over how to end the pregnancy. We didn't find her for three days. I can't
    begin to describe the smell. I don't like people who feel it's OK to put this kind of pressure on young people - mainly by men
    who will never, ever have to face that kind of decision.
     
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    Wait.....you don't think that a heartbeat isn't an appeal to emotion? You don't think the phrase "to kill a fetus" isn't an appeal to emotion? Talk about disingenuous.
     
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    Gosh, such an ardent appeal to emotion. It still doesn't address the other question. As the case is, the vast majority of abortions are done for convenience, none of this is actually applicable is it? So, if abortion was limited, legally, to the cases of rape, would you agree with those limitations?
     
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    Are you OK with the woman not having to prove rape in order to get an abortion? We've all seen the horror show that a rape trail can be for a woman (only about 20% end up with a conviction).
     
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