Texas 6-week abortion ban takes effect after Supreme Court inaction

I think the complete opposite... Women need the government to be their total ****ing stranger regarding their medical decisions...

 

Think of this as common sense abortion restrictions.

 

We're not discussing rape cases, which are a completely different matter. We're discussing the vast majority of abortions (ie, not a result of rape).

 

How do you get one, without the other? Explain the mechanics of a birth without pregnancy.

 

Yes.

 

I'm not going to get off in the murky waters of viability when conception is not at all murky.

 

A wholly terrible idea.

Not only impossible to attain (because no individual can provide a tailored response to every person they encounter), but even trying creates a society of narcissists.

 

Outside of some forced breeding construct neither would a woman.

 

Why should the baby be executed for it's father's crime?

 

Men certainly have their responsibility. I'm wondering how often women are coerced into abortion because the man doesn't want to take responsibility.

This seems like a dirty word with regard to the abortion debate. I think they should hold just as much responsibility for it as women but people seem to want to put it all in the woman. I don't think that's fair. It's her burden alone to carry the rest of her life.

Seems odd to frame that as women's rights.

 

Women have full and sole responsibility. Say it out loud .. and see how you feel about it. Do you accept it? Perhaps you think Govt, or men, should take some of her control, and absolve her of that responsibility?

 

But just medical decisions. Outside of criminal acts all their decisions. And men too.

I wouldn't say a word about abortion if we ended life long welfare, public school and forcing people to pay gobs of taxes.

After all I'm libertarian

 

General question for everyone .......

What determines your views on the issue of abortion?? What are the contributing factors that define your thinking and position.?


Thanks.

One big factor .imho....is the emotional and physical health of the pregnant lady.

Politics , lawyers and even religion should not be the primary factors.

 

1) Is the Texas Govt raping women, or imprisoning them in fertilisation facilities? Why do you say such laughably silly things as 'forced'? Outside of rape, no pregnancy is forced.

2) No, WOMEN are controlling their bodies. It's you who refuses to acknowledge full female bodily autonomy - in attempting to suggest they don't understand how babies are made. YOU want men and Govt to step in and take that responsibility from women. We're the ones saying "you don't get to do that".

3) YOU are the one who is meddling. You are trying to remove the consequences of freely made choices, because you evidently think women are too stupid to manage their own lives.

 

1) Respect for female bodily autonomy/responsibility.

2) Preservation of potential human lives.

 

Hmmm...you ok with a woman taking one of the range of ‘morning after’ pills? How about her using an IUD...?

 

Were they all raped?

 

I have nothing against anything that prevents conception I would consider someone who takes that stuff to be extremely responsible regardless of whether it's in IUD birth control pills prophylactics or some of the other various methods.

I am an absolute proponent of birth control and education.

 

Why? We all know births can't happen without pregnancy.

It also can't happen with abortion. So pregnancy can end with birth or abortion, and If you ban abortion, you force birth.

1) I'm talking about forced birth. You're talking about forced pregnancy. I never said the TX government is forcing pregnancy on women. I said it's forcing pregnant women to give birth, and because of that, should be responsible to provide assistance.

2) Non-sense. If women get punished by law for getting abortions, they are not in control of their bodies.

3) I'm not meddling. I'm not forcing them to do give birth or have abortion. That choice I leave up to the woman who's pregnant, as it should be. Not the government, not any other person.

But like I said, seeing as how the TX government thinks it should have control over women's bodies, then it should be responsible.

Says the man who never has to worry about getting pregnant, but many Texas pregnant women would disagree with the man.

 

What role does the sperm donor -the "father"= have in a decision involving abortion??

 

This abortion thing has gone too far and the legislature has stepped over boundaries that are forbidden.

 

If you have to worry about getting pregnant you should evaluate some of your behaviors.

Being a gay man I don't have to worry about being pregnant or getting pregnant that doesn't mean there are no consequences at all to my actions.

Because I control my behaviors and don't act on every urge I have I feel pretty safe from consequences.

It's called responsibility and self control.

 

This abortion thing has gone too far and the legislature has stepped over boundaries that are forbidden. That's the bottom line and I mean it.

 

This thread sure seems to prove that sex education isn't being taught in schools. The ignorance and misogyny displayed are truly incredible.

 

A woman does not have control if a man beats her !!!!!